Give Obama a break! I'm sure that the earliest flight out he could get. I mean, it's not like Obama has his own personal jet at his dispos... Whoops, nevermind.
Posted on 10/23/2008 12:32:58 PM PDT by pissant
Obama announced on Monday that he would be traveling to Hawaii to visit his gravely ill grandmother. The Obama's spent their family's summer vacation in Hawaii and by all reports the candidate's grandmother has taken a turn for the worst in the last few weeks. I sincerely wish the best for Grandma Dunham, Obama's maternal grandmother.
I was listening to Rush Limbaugh this morning as he discussed Obama's four day delay in traveling to his stricken grandmother's bedside. Rush pointed out that most of us would move heaven and earth to get to a dying relative and not delay our departure for four or five days. Maybe there is another reason that Obama needs to be in Hawaii--a reason that threatens his candidacy for President of the United States.
There is a question that the mainstream media hasn't posed to the candidate in any meaningful way or independently researched (actually there are many more). But there is only one question that would require Obama travel to Hawaii. He needs to collect his original legal birth records--records the candidate has refused to produce even when a judge has ordered their production.
When Obama made his travel announcement he knew that there would be a summary judgment against him in the Berg case the nest day. Obama's lack of response to the court is a legal affirmation that he is not a legal citizen of the United States, and as of this writing Berg has proved his case. Obama has run out of time and can no longer deflect a serious question that threatens his candidacy. Judges really do not like it when you ignore their requests.
Under Hawaiian law, birth records are sealed and can only be released to the person named on the record. This is Obama's unstated reason for an emergency trip to visit his only remaining U.S. relative--the only person who can answer whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya. And Obama can only request the necessary documents in person--if these documents exist at all.
His Kenyan grandmother is on record as stating Barak Obama Jr. was born in Kenya.
There has been a discussion for months that the Clinton camp had an October surprise up its sleeve. Is it conceivable that the Berg v Obama lawsuit is Hillary's revenge? After all, Berg is a democrat loyalist who filed this lawsuit just four days before the start of the DNC gathering in Denver. Just because the press showed no interest in the case when it was filed doesn't mean the case was without merit and Berg has done a good job of moving the case through the court.
Hats off to Berg! He has done more to protect the constitutional question of the nominee's legal right to run for office than the Democrat Party or national press has done. If Berg is correct--and Obama's refusal to produce documents are an admission Berg is right--than the senator never had a right to hold any public office in the United States, not even Illinois state senator.
It also appears that Obama's mother waived his citizenship when the family lived in Indonesia. Did Obama's Indonesian stepfather, LoLo Satoro, adopt the young Obama?
There are a number of other questions. Let's see if Obama can start answering the court after he returns from visiting his sick grandmother.
Not as simple as that. There were age and residency requirements as well which mama Obama did not meet.
Give Obama a break! I'm sure that the earliest flight out he could get. I mean, it's not like Obama has his own personal jet at his dispos... Whoops, nevermind.
look at post 12
Is that true, that an adoption by a citizen of a foreign nation nullifies one’s U.S. citizenship, even if the mother is a U.S. citizen still?
You can be born a US citizen overseas, but you may not meet the requirement(s) of being a natural born US citizen according to the law. This law applied when one parent is a foreign national.
Anne Dunham did not meet the law requirement that was in effect in 1961 for her son Barack to be considered a 'natural born citizen' because she was still considered a minor. Dunham had to live 10 continuous years inside the United States (at some time in her life) when her baby was born, and 5 of those years had to be over the age of 14; although, I've read 5 of the years had to be over the age of 21 on a law site. In either case Anne Dunham did not meet what the law specified.
She had Barack at the age of 17 or 18. Therefore, Obama did not meet the test required by law and cannot be president. The law was not changed until 1986 and it was not retroactive.
Obama is an illegal alien and should be arrested by ICE and deported.
I think that you have to look at the laws at the time of the birth. In this case, O’s mother was 18 which meant she had not technically been a citizen herself for long enough to have that be enough to establish his citizenship if born abroad. McCain was not born in the US although he was born in one of its possessions, Panama Canal Zone to military so under the laws in place when he was born, that made him a natural citizen. I think that the Indonesian adoption is also interesting although if all it takes to make him a citizen after that is to take an oath, it seems it could be cured.
Yes, but the fact is, whatever he can collect from there is going to be fake or show that he wasn’t born there, but one was ISSUED there (ie for the kenya birth).
I said the same thing to hubby last night. If Obama wins, that’s it for the Clintons. He will be the Dems new shining star and Bill and Hil will be thrown out like yesterday’s trash. Bill, especially, would not be able to bear not being the big dog. His ego is too fragile to let this upstart take away his crown.
I’m praying we haven’t seen their last card.
Be careful what you wish for..... If Obama is forced to drop out, we get Biden.......................
The question is whether he is even a citizen at all. In that case, he cannot hold office period.
Your coworker is right and is an idiot.
Today, children of U.S. citizens born abroad are U.S. citizens. But when Obama was born, the law was different and he would NOT have been automatically conferred U.S. citizenship. They didn’t retroactively grant citizenship, either.
>Rush made an odd point when talking about the certificate. He said, “do you really think that the dems would dump him”? I would think that they would have no choice. It states on the Constitution that a person must be a natural born citizen to run for POTUS...doesn’t it?!
And the DNC began to care about what the Constitution states at which time? After all, it is a living, breathing document that must evolve to meet new situations that the founders never dreamed of. /sarc
Yeah, that’ll fly. Seeing as they address the birth specifically in the Constitution, obviously, they had more than dreamed of a situation like this.
You talking to me! I be a Jew!
Speaking of playing with one’s crotch at the wrong time!!!
Obama HUSSEIN really sucks when it comes to his pretending to act like a U.S. Citizen, let alone a Senator! This scumbag is an embarressment to the Dog Catcher’s Union worldwide!
OBAMA, please describe the pleasures You enjoy as You go out of your way each day to harass, embaress and attempt to destroy Our Wonderful America everyday!
I think Obama is a foreign infiltrator attempting to usurp American Sovereignty and should be arrested and tried as a hostile invader.
Jay is now interviewing Jane Swirsky about the Obama birth certificate. She maintains that the bc Obama has handed out is phony.It’s all very fishy. He could have cleared this up very easily
This woman is no kook. She has some hefty credentials.
He can not. Indo does not allow dual citizenship. If he was or is Indo he had to cancel US citizenship.
Rush is no kook, and the myriad freepers on this story aren’t either. Berg may have a screw loose, but he is doing the country a huge favor and was willing to step up the the plate.
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