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October Surprise Equals Obama's Citizenship Question?
Red County ^ | 10/23/08 | Teresa Shuff Trujillo

Posted on 10/23/2008 12:32:58 PM PDT by pissant

Obama announced on Monday that he would be traveling to Hawaii to visit his gravely ill grandmother. The Obama's spent their family's summer vacation in Hawaii and by all reports the candidate's grandmother has taken a turn for the worst in the last few weeks. I sincerely wish the best for Grandma Dunham, Obama's maternal grandmother.

I was listening to Rush Limbaugh this morning as he discussed Obama's four day delay in traveling to his stricken grandmother's bedside. Rush pointed out that most of us would move heaven and earth to get to a dying relative and not delay our departure for four or five days. Maybe there is another reason that Obama needs to be in Hawaii--a reason that threatens his candidacy for President of the United States.

There is a question that the mainstream media hasn't posed to the candidate in any meaningful way or independently researched (actually there are many more). But there is only one question that would require Obama travel to Hawaii. He needs to collect his original legal birth records--records the candidate has refused to produce even when a judge has ordered their production.

When Obama made his travel announcement he knew that there would be a summary judgment against him in the Berg case the nest day. Obama's lack of response to the court is a legal affirmation that he is not a legal citizen of the United States, and as of this writing Berg has proved his case. Obama has run out of time and can no longer deflect a serious question that threatens his candidacy. Judges really do not like it when you ignore their requests.

Under Hawaiian law, birth records are sealed and can only be released to the person named on the record. This is Obama's unstated reason for an emergency trip to visit his only remaining U.S. relative--the only person who can answer whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya. And Obama can only request the necessary documents in person--if these documents exist at all.

His Kenyan grandmother is on record as stating Barak Obama Jr. was born in Kenya.

There has been a discussion for months that the Clinton camp had an October surprise up its sleeve. Is it conceivable that the Berg v Obama lawsuit is Hillary's revenge? After all, Berg is a democrat loyalist who filed this lawsuit just four days before the start of the DNC gathering in Denver. Just because the press showed no interest in the case when it was filed doesn't mean the case was without merit and Berg has done a good job of moving the case through the court.

Hats off to Berg! He has done more to protect the constitutional question of the nominee's legal right to run for office than the Democrat Party or national press has done. If Berg is correct--and Obama's refusal to produce documents are an admission Berg is right--than the senator never had a right to hold any public office in the United States, not even Illinois state senator.

It also appears that Obama's mother waived his citizenship when the family lived in Indonesia. Did Obama's Indonesian stepfather, LoLo Satoro, adopt the young Obama?

There are a number of other questions. Let's see if Obama can start answering the court after he returns from visiting his sick grandmother.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: antichrist; birthcertificate; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; obama
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To: albie

I also thought it was an odd comment.


21 posted on 10/23/2008 12:44:11 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: pissant

I don’t know, if I were asked to produce my original birth certificate proving U.S. citizenship, I could make it available in about 10 minutes.

Yet for some strange reason, Obama does not seem to have the same ability to produce his COLB proving US citizenship. I ask myself, “why”, and the answer always comes back, “Because it doesn’t exist”.


22 posted on 10/23/2008 12:44:20 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: pissant
If Berg is correct--and Obama's refusal to produce documents are an admission Berg is right--than the senator never had a right to hold any public office in the United States, not even Illinois state senator.

This part is not accurate. He just could not be President or VP.

23 posted on 10/23/2008 12:44:28 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: pissant

And now for something completely different....

I have a 16 foot wall of sliding glass doors forming the wall of my office. Last week I had the very old doors removed and replaced with new ones.

When they took up the bottom track on one of the doors, there was revealed an ants nest. There were zillions of little bitty ants.

Guess what? They were Pissants.


24 posted on 10/23/2008 12:44:38 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: screaminsunshine

I think you are correct and that is the real problem especially if it turns out Communist Davis was his father.


25 posted on 10/23/2008 12:44:58 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: screaminsunshine

I suspect it would not matter to a lot of folks if he regained US citizenship. If he holds citizenship in both the U.S. and Indonesia (the largest Muslim country in the world), a lot of folks will not see him as a suitable candidate. They want a president who is loyal to the US and the US alone.


26 posted on 10/23/2008 12:45:18 PM PDT by freespirited ( We have met the enemy, and he is the MSM.)
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To: pissant

Kind of a lame surprise.


27 posted on 10/23/2008 12:45:25 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: chippewaman

“Natural born citizen” meaning that you must have been born either in the states or in a territory of the US to at least one parent of US citizenship.


28 posted on 10/23/2008 12:45:45 PM PDT by molly_jack2007 (Obama suffers from Sarahnoia!!!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

“I think his problem is his Indonesian adoption. He became an Indo citizen and gave up US citizenship. When he came back to Hawaii he never met the requirement to become a US citizen again”

I agree.


29 posted on 10/23/2008 12:46:31 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: chippewaman
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

30 posted on 10/23/2008 12:46:31 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: pissant
I didn't forget!!!!!!!!!...Photobucket
31 posted on 10/23/2008 12:47:10 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran====McCain/Palin 2OO8==My Mouse is a MOOSE=Donate to FR)
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To: Mabus

32 posted on 10/23/2008 12:48:14 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Perdogg
Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer

*snicker*

He is a thug, look for him to head up hussein's domestic security force..

33 posted on 10/23/2008 12:48:14 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: pissant

I have an uneasy suspicion that this is a ruse to get us to focus on something that can be disproved in order to avoid more damaging stuff.

The Clintons were masters of this game and Obama’s people probably picked it up from them.

That said, there’s always hope. Can anyone here imagine the outcry if Obama were elected and then it was proved that he is not a US citizen? It would go to the SCOTUS and the level of MSM hysteria would be incredible.


34 posted on 10/23/2008 12:49:11 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: pissant; surrey

The news about this issue is where it’s being reported as news, not so much what is being reported (cuz we know the latter already). If or when it shows up in major media then it is news because it is news.


35 posted on 10/23/2008 12:49:12 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: chippewaman

Your co-worker is a mega-idiot.


36 posted on 10/23/2008 12:49:54 PM PDT by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: chippewaman
Both of you are sort of right. At the time of BHO's birth in order for the Mother to pass US citizenship to a child born abroad she had to have 10 years of residency in the US, 5 of which had to be after her 14th birthday. So, she would have had to be 19 to pass citizenship while overseas. So, if she had Barry in Kenya at 18, he is not a US Citizen even now.

Further, if he was adopted by his Mother's second husband, that adoption would have nullified his US Citizenship. He still could have regained that Citizenship by reaffirming it in front of a judge when he was 18. Instead of doing that, he maintained his Indonesian Citizenship by carrying a INDO passport at least until he was 20.

37 posted on 10/23/2008 12:50:10 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: pissant
The MSM simply needs to do its job and ask simple follow-up questions.

Sen. Obama, you wrote that you travelled to Pakistan in 1981. Can you tell us if you were using a US passport, since they were not recognized by Pakistan at that time?

Sen. Obama, you have supported the idea of Reparations for blacks on numerous occasions. Can you tell us if you will pursue Reparations as President?

Sen. Obama, you have noted that you wish to use diplomacy to engage our enemies. Can you tell us under what ciscumstances you might use the military, or at least threaten to do so?

Sen. Obama, you have talked about the problem of guns many times. Can you tell us what restrictions you might pass as President?

38 posted on 10/23/2008 12:50:13 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Suddenly a big time Palin supporter... who's that McCabe guy?)
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To: pabianice

IT’S DA JOOOS! DA JOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!


39 posted on 10/23/2008 12:50:38 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Perdogg

I think the same could be said to Obama? How hard could it be to produce a birth certificate? How did he get a drivers license? The burden of proof is on Obama. How can one put up or shut up when only Obama can clear this up? He could clear this up easily and I have to be suspicious as to the reasoning behind him not doing that.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 12:52:59 PM PDT by WildcatClan (The world is full of fatheads; so I invented Diet Shampoo)
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