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See the more extensive article on USA Today: Group asks IRS to investigate Catholic bishop against Obama
1 posted on 10/23/2008 10:47:18 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/23/2008 10:48:40 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (This Papist for Palin ask everyone to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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Uh oh. Jeremiah Wright and a whole bunch of other Obama-supporting clergy better watch their backs. Can’t have no partisan electioneering in church, no sir. Oh, wait. Nevermind.


4 posted on 10/23/2008 10:51:38 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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His excellency was not endorsing a particular candidate. This is an empty lawsuit.


5 posted on 10/23/2008 10:55:34 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Barry Lynn is nothing to do about Separation of Church and State, it is communism he is a fake phony fraud.


6 posted on 10/23/2008 10:55:41 AM PDT by boomop1
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"I'd rather lose my 501(c)(3) than my soul."

How did it ever get this bad?

8 posted on 10/23/2008 10:57:14 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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“Partisan Electioneering”

Unlike ACORN and state election officials and AGs - like in Ohio

right

9 posted on 10/23/2008 10:57:42 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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"I'd rather lose my 501(c)(3) than my soul."

Yes! Good job, Father!

I think a lot of priests and bishops have had a wake-up call this election. If they're tolerating evil and even threats to the Faith for the sake of their tax exemption, they've clearly lost their focus!

That said, if somebody's going to attack Catholic opposition to the Dem program, somebody else better file a suit about those black churches and ministers who are telling their people to vote for Obama, chartering busses to take them to vote for him, etc.

11 posted on 10/23/2008 10:59:11 AM PDT by livius
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"Group asks IRS to investigate Catholic bishop against Obama"

Welcome to Obamanation!

12 posted on 10/23/2008 10:59:46 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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This is nothing more than to fire up the Obama base and install fear that “those Christian kooks are going to run America if Obama loses.” This lawsuit was filed to get in the papers. Nov 5 the suit gets dropped.


13 posted on 10/23/2008 10:59:46 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Satan is riding a crest right now!


15 posted on 10/23/2008 11:02:36 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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I do not submit to extortion , nor should we give up free speech in return for a tax break . Get rid of all deductions for all charitable contributions . Churches seem to be the only tax exempt entities which are expected to forfeit their duty to speak the truth . I have urged my clergy leaders to never be cowed from speaking the truth . Tithes , offerings and donations will continue to come to churches without regard to tax advantage .
16 posted on 10/23/2008 11:05:27 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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The editorial in question:

A Politician’s Promise: No Right to Life! No Freedom!

After committing a murder in Rome, the famous 17th century Italian painter Caravaggio went to Malta to avoid the death penalty. While there, the Great Master of the Order of the Knights of Malta commissioned him to do a painting for the chapel of the Co-Cathedral of St. John in Valletta. Caravaggio chose as his theme the martyrdom of John the Baptist. He produced The Beheading of St. John, his largest work, the only one he ever signed. No doubt the scene touched him personally.

Herod was married to Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife. Because John the Baptist preached against this sin, he incurred the hatred of Herod’s wife. The day her daughter Salome delighted Herod with her seductive dance, Herodias had her make Herod promise to kill John the Baptist. Within the severe architecture of a 16th century prison, Caravaggio vividly depicts the grisly moment when Herod kept his promise.

Caravaggio’s work, considered his greatest masterpiece, immortalizes the misguided fidelity of a ruler to his gruesome promise. With the stroke of the soldier’s sword, John dies and so does freedom. Freedom is based on the truth of the human person as created by God and protected by his law.
When a ruler can decide against God’s law, true freedom is sentenced to death.

Recently, a politician made a promise. Politicians usually do. If this politician fulfills his promise, not only will many of our freedoms as Americans be taken from us, but the innocent and vulnerable will spill their blood.

On April 18, 2007, in Gonzales v. Carhart, The Supreme Court upheldthe Partial-Birth Abortion Ban. The very next day prominent Democratic members of Congress reintroduced the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA). The bill is misleadingly packaged as a freedom bill. It is not! It is a clear act of unreasoned bias to end abruptly and brutally the debate on the pressing and fundamental moral issue of the right to life.

For thirty-five years, Americans have been wrestling with The Supreme Court’s decision legalizing abortion in Roe v. Wade. Most Americans now favor some kind of a ban on abortion. Most who allow abortion would do so only in very rare cases. In fact, in January, 2008, the Guttmacher Institute published its 14th census of abortion providers in the country. Its statistics showed that the abortion rate continues to decline. Abortions have reached their lowest level since 1974. There is truly a deep sensitivity to life in the soul of America.

The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) would mortally wound this sensitivity. In effect, it would dismantle the freedom of choice to do all that is necessary to respect and protect human life at its most vulnerable stage. FOCA goes far beyond guaranteeing the right to an abortion throughout the nine months of pregnancy. It arrogantly prohibits any law or policy interfering with that right. While advocates trumpet this law as the triumph of the freedom of choice, they hide the dark reality that the law would actually inhibit choice.

Laws protecting the rights of nurses, doctors and hospitals with moral objections to abortion would no longer stand. Health and safety regulations for abortion clinics would also vanish. Gone the freedom of health care professionals to be faithful to the Hippocratic Oath “to prescribe regimens for the good of …patients…and never do harm to anyone, to please no one [by prescribing] a deadly drug nor [by giving] advice which may cause his death.” Gone the freedom of conscience so essential for a civil society!

If a minority of avid abortionists succeed to impose this law because of the ignorance or apathy of the majority, the law would force taxpayers to fund abortions. Gone the freedom of taxation with representation!

In its 1992 Casey decision, The Supreme Court ruled as constitutional state laws requiring that women and young girls who seek an abortion receive information on the development of the child in the womb as well as alternatives to abortion. The ruling also determined that a period of waiting, usually 24 or 48 hours before making a decision about an abortion is not an undue burden. The Freedom of Choice Act would nullify these laws immediately. Gone the freedom of women and young girls to have all the information they need to make their own choices!

In about half of the States, there are parental notification or consent laws in effect for minors seeking an abortion. The Supreme Court has ruled that these laws are permitted under Roe v. Wade. With the stroke of a pen, these laws would be abolished. Gone the freedom of parents to care for and protect their children and grandchildren!

Advocates of FOCA redefine a woman’s “health” so as to expressly permit post-viability abortions. Thus, a child who survives an abortion can be left to die for the health of the mother. No politically correct word can mask this reality for what it is. This is infanticide. Gone the freedom for a baby, once born, to live!

Science does not dispute that the child in the womb already has all the characteristics that he or she will develop after birth. Notwithstanding, abortionists obstinately refuse the right of the child within the womb to live as a fundamental human right. They are not happy that Americans have not swallowed their distorted propaganda that denies the dignity of the human person from the first moment of conception.

Pro-abortion advocates close their eyes to the fact that abortion even hurts women as it undermines the very fabric of our society. Their zeal for the Freedom of Choice Act sounds the alarm for decent Americans to wake up! The more the right to life is denied, the more we lose our freedoms. The “pro-choice” movement is not pro-choice. It stands against the freedom to choose what is right according to the truth of the human person.

In 2002, as an Illinois legislator, the present democratic candidate voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act. This law was meant to protect a baby that survived a late-term abortion. When the same legislation came up in the Judiciary Committee on which he served, he held to his opposition. First, he voted “present.” Next, he voted “no.”

Along with 108 members of Congress, the present democratic candidate for President continues his strong support for the Freedom of Choice Act. In aspeech before the Planned Parenthood Action Fund last year, he made the promise that the first thing he would do as President would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act. What a choice for a new President!

At the time when Herod murdered John the Baptist because of his promise, Rome practiced the principle “one man, one vote.” Whoever the emperor in Rome placed in authority over a subject people, ruled. Today we live in a democracy. We choose our leaders who make our laws. Every vote counts. Today, either we choose to respect and protect life, especially the life of the child in the womb of the mother or we sanction the loss of our most basic freedoms. At this point, we are still free to choose!


17 posted on 10/23/2008 11:06:07 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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My own humble work on the subject.

You can read his editorial here and there is a link to send him a message. Please drop him an encouraging note... you know he is catching hell (literally) for his strong stance.

I called his office to offer a kind message and was told that it was "greatly" appreciated.

18 posted on 10/23/2008 11:10:16 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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From POPE LEO XIII RERUM NOVARUM

The rights here spoken of, belonging to each individual man, are seen in much stronger light when considered in relation to man's social and domestic obligations. In choosing a state of life, it is indisputable that all are at full liberty to follow the counsel of Jesus Christ as to observing virginity, or to bind themselves by the marriage tie. No human law can abolish the natural and original right of marriage, nor in any way limit the chief and principal purpose of marriage ordained by God's authority from the beginning: “Increase and multiply.”[3] Hence we have the family, the “society” of a man's house—a society very small, one must admit, but none the less a true society, and one OLDER THAN ANY STATE. Consequently, it has rights and duties peculiar to itself which are quite independent of the State.

19 posted on 10/23/2008 11:10:26 AM PDT by stfassisi (The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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Somebody needs to investigate Barry Lind for being a Nazi.


20 posted on 10/23/2008 11:26:41 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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One of Hitlers Children (Barry Lynn) “Asks IRS to Investigate NJ Catholic Diocese.. for Partisan Electioneering”

His organization is totally political and is given tax exempt status so how can we the people as the IRS to investigate these anti-American Nazi scum?


21 posted on 10/23/2008 11:27:12 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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Did the bishop really refer to Herod Antipas, the king who ordered John the Baptist beheaded, or to Herod the Great, who massacred the infants? Herod the Great is a better analogy.

I expect the IRS to be used against the Catholic Church if Obama wins, to try to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, and maybe to try to get the church to ordain women as priests. Of course that won't succeed, but they could force Catholic hospitals to cease operations.

22 posted on 10/23/2008 11:32:36 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Yeah. And they will never investigate the churches that are campaigning for obamma.


23 posted on 10/23/2008 11:32:40 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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It's long past time to tell these creeps that we will NOT shut up!

We're behind you 100%, Bishop Serratelli!
25 posted on 10/23/2008 11:36:58 AM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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Since Americans United for Separation of Church and State has been given 501(c)(3) status I have written my elected representatives and ask that they ask the IRS top take this away as they are nothing but a political organization, who support only anti-American left wing Democrats. I suggest we all write!
26 posted on 10/23/2008 11:38:20 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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