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1 posted on 10/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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“Berg hasn’t demonstrated how he personally would suffer”
I believe it is Berg’s arguement that as a Democrat, his candidate is not qualified to hold office. Therefore, by nominating Obama, the DNC has left him without a valid candidate. Thus disenfranchising him and the Democratic voters. If I were the judge,I would agree.


47 posted on 10/23/2008 7:46:42 AM PDT by noob4palin (That's Governor Palin to you.)
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NO STANDING???

ANY American citizen who reveres the Constitution and believes its provisions mean what they say would have standing.

Man, this is getting really freaky.


48 posted on 10/23/2008 7:47:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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“The Federal Election Commission has joined Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee in asking a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit....”

Why?? Is such action part of the federal law which charters the FEC?? or even implied??

There must be some merit to the case if there are so many groups entering the litigation on Obama’s side.

59 posted on 10/23/2008 7:53:30 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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Seems to me that it's a basic function of the FEC to make sure that a candidate for president meets all the constitutional criteria to serve.

But as usual, the laws are for Republicans.
76 posted on 10/23/2008 8:06:34 AM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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Let's call the FEC at (800) 424-9530. Or the FEC Press Office at (202) 694-1220.

Lots of good information on their website ( http://www.fec.gov/ ) Unfortunately, no email addresses.

"The six Commissioners, no more than three of whom may represent the same political party, are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Commissioners serve full time and are responsible for administering and enforcing the Federal Election Campaign Act. They generally meet twice a week, once in closed session to discuss matters that, by law, must remain confidential, and once in a meeting open to the public. At these meetings, they formulate policy and vote on significant legal and administrative matters."

78 posted on 10/23/2008 8:08:26 AM PDT by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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Berg had filed against the FEC on his last filings and all this is the FEC’s reply which was posted Tuesday on some thread. This is not Obama’s filing unless I have missed something. So Obama’s campaign did not file in a timely fashion and thus did not answer the complaint. It would seem the failure to reply is an admission that the claims are true.

If an individual is sued and doesn't respond, does the plaintiff not win by default? Maybe if the media won't cover this it is time to start asking the question why no answer was filed in every comment we leave on other websites.

91 posted on 10/23/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by nclaurel (No white flags from America in Iraq--hear that Biden!)
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Ping!!


99 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:19 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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Doesn't the FEC’s charter limit them to financial oversight?
109 posted on 10/23/2008 8:41:43 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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No matter how this turns out- it is surprising to me that although the Constitution has requirements for the office of President; there seems to be no system in place to make sure a candidate meets those requirements.


122 posted on 10/23/2008 9:07:47 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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FROM MY ARTICLE:

Obama: A Forgery is Unacceptable!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2076357/posts

“It cost me about ten dollars (in those days) for an official original copy of my birth certificate, on file at my state capital.

I got it in about ten days.

I was young and had moved to another state.

Having lost my birth certificate, I needed an original copy in order to get a driver license, a bank account, and ultimately… a job.

Employers — especially companies that must report taxis and pay into workers compensation and other programs — expect to see some sort of identification from a potential employee.

They like to know who they are hiring.

They also like to know that the employee is honest and trustworthy.

The American people may be ‘hiring’ Barack Obama as the next President of The United States.

As a potential employee we (the People of the United States) would like Obama to submit legitimate identification, namely:

A birth certificate or an official original copy of his birth certificate.

I don’t think that’s asking too much from a potential employee.

By the way, Mr. Obama…

… A forgery is unacceptable!”

STE=Q


129 posted on 10/23/2008 9:18:18 AM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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ping for later


130 posted on 10/23/2008 9:18:29 AM PDT by pctech
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I think they are probably right, unfortunately.

Here is some text from the 20th amendment to the constitution:

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
This text suggests that the qualification to be President is applied after the election, not before. It also suggests that you can elect someone who isn't qualified, and if you do the VP becomes president.

Now, I think we could argue that "qualified" here is not regarding the legal requirements for the office, but means "qualified" by getting enough electors, or by being chosen by the house if there aren't a majority of electoral votes. But it seems to be more general to me.

The key though is that there is this lawsuit, and it hasn't been dismissed. It means that we can all bring up this lawsuit, and note that if you vote for Obama, you might well end up with Biden as President since there is a good chance Obama might be found "not qualified" after the election.

In other words, we can use it to stir up doubts about WHO you are electing. A person who might throw his vote away for the "black guy" might think twice if he realises there's a good chance he's voting for Biden over McCain.

138 posted on 10/23/2008 9:24:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The FEC simply does not want to deal with the fallout that may come from the COLB.


148 posted on 10/23/2008 9:29:14 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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I just heard Rush Limbaugh in his opening monologue leading in to Mr. Berg's lawsuit about Nobama's BC and relating it to his flying out to see Granny before she "dies!

Will be very interesting to see who will follow up in the media!!

The Gennie is finally out of the bottle, hmmm!!!

159 posted on 10/23/2008 9:51:33 AM PDT by danamco
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Barrack Obama mentioned his trip, with his friend, to Pakistan in 1981, as part of his “world experience”. In 1981 Pakistan was under Martial Law for a fifth straight year. The entire country was under Sharia Islamic Law. What is interesting to note is that Christians and U.S.citizens were prohibited from entering Pakistan during this time!

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time. Since Obama was just a graduate from Occidental College, travelling with a friend, and not a diplomat in U.S. service, how would the United States issue a passport to a country on their banned list? HMMMM?

However, Indonesia and Pakistan did not have hostilities with each other at that time. A Muslim with an Indonesian passport could enter.

Barack Obama must have used an Indonesian passport, which is granted ONLY to citizens in Indonesia and MUST be renewed every 3 years. That means Obama was still an Indonesian citizen, during his travel, if such passport was used.

Neither Kenya, nor Indonesia recognized dual citizenship, subsequently, the U.S. did not recognize dual citizenship with other countries that did not recognize dual citizenship.

Did the US issue a passport to go into Pakistan, in violation of the restriction, AND the Pakistani “Border Officers” violated their own laws and welcomed a U.S. citizen who professed to be a Christian? Or did he use an Indonesian Passport to go to Pakistan confirming that he knew that he was an Indonesian citizen?

If the INS has records, or if he can show that he renounced his alien citizenship while pledging an oath of allegiance to the United States, then he is not an illegal alien.

Don’t simply take my word for it. Double check his professed words of his travels, and the U.S. and Pakistani passport & travel laws of 1981

171 posted on 10/23/2008 10:55:43 AM PDT by danamco
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bump


173 posted on 10/23/2008 11:05:10 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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I am beyond my wits end!!! Fraud, coverups, suppression of information, non-disclosure, eating lobster, caviar, and drinking champagne.
Just about all available, at least circumstantial(very very compelling circumstantial), evidence is pointing to this, according to his grandmother,Kenyan-born Luo Tribesman, NOT BEING ELIGIBLE TO EVEN RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!! And now the last bastion to guard against this communist from getting elected, and they and the DNC are pressuring the courts to toss the case out?!?!If we permit this to happen our country is beyond dead!


211 posted on 10/23/2008 2:01:52 PM PDT by belgrade1861
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I don't understand why this Standing Argument can't be settled. As an American Citizen the Constitution is a social contract to which I am a party. I have a right to expect my President to qualify for the job according to that document. If he does not qualify then my rights under that document (to a President who does qualify) have been abridged.

Voila! Personalized Individual Harm.

226 posted on 10/23/2008 6:36:58 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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I havae 5 mg audit tape who knows how to make available on Freepr? From todays Michael Savage todays show with Phillip Berg.

democrats Denial of service atttach on Michael Savage website.


228 posted on 10/23/2008 8:05:37 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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