Posted on 10/21/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by pissant
One of the most intense allegations of the ongoing lawsuit against Sen. Barack Obama alleging ineligibility for the presidency is whether or not Mr. Obama can produce his birth certificate.
If Mr. Obama were to produce his birth certificate, it would lay the entire question to rest. It would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the U.S. government officially recognizes Mr. Obama's citizenship. The Obama campaign says that it has already produced this document, a scanned copy of which is available at the campaign's "Fight the Smears" Web site.
One point critics of Mr. Obama have made is the fact that the document posted is not, in fact, a birth certificate. It is a birth certification, which is a computer-generated printout of a birth record. A certification is a cheap print-off for people who have lost their original birth certificates. For most people, there is little practical difference between a certificate of live birth and a certification of live birth, although the certification requires extra verification when being used like a birth certificate.
Because of the tenuous nature of identifying a certification of birth as genuine, it requires an embossed seal and authoritative signature. The low-resolution scan available on the Obama campaign Web site appears to have neither of those. The ink from a date stamp, "June 6, 2007," is visible clearly, but it appears that the document does not have a seal or signature. The campaign only scanned the front of the document.
Without the seal and signature, the document on the Obama Web site lacks legal weight, and does not count as representing the official birth record of Mr. Obama.
Philip Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, has filed suit against Mr. Obama, alleging that he is not legally qualified to serve as president. He has indicated that if Mr. Obama were to produce certified documents proving that he is a natural born citizen, he will withdraw his case.
Mr. Berg maintains that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, but others wonder if there are more reasons why Mr. Obama and the Democratic National
Committee have not laid the question to rest by releasing the documents. Some think that there may be embarrassing information about Mr. Obama that could be inferred from the papers.
The original birth certificate would normally have an entry for religion, and many suppose he would have been listed as Muslim, an image Mr. Obama has worked hard to distance himself from. Others think it might have shown that his parents were not legally married, even though Mr. Obama contends that his parents were married in good faith before separating upon discovering his father had never divorced his last wife.
The Obama campaign says that the idea that Mr. Obama is not natural born is preposterous and cites the certification of birth as an example. But until a physical and verifiable document is produced for their critics, the lawsuit is expected to continue.
If someone claimed Palin was born in Canada, and Palin offered up a scan of a COLB on FR and her own website, how many stinkin commie reporters would be camped out in Alaska filing legal papers to obtain her records?
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
Its not just the MSM that’s avoiding this — its the conservative media as well. Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, Hannity ... nobody’s touching it. If it were even arguably legit, Hannity would be all over it.
A couple of frivolous lawsuits are hardly newsworthy.
Generally speaking, conservatives are against frivolous litigation and judicial intervention in extra-judicial matters.
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Malkin at Hot air has been on this though I think she believes there is nothing here.
i wish someone had the guts to run with this...just to creat doubt among mainstream america.
Hi Piss! Check this out before it’s gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w
THIS conservative is for upholding the constitutional requirements to run for POTUS. A test Hussein Obama has so far failed miserably.
And force Obama to reveal his shady birth circumstances.
What’s a Constitutional crisis between rats?
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She may be right, but it sure could be resolved real fast by just producing the BC. Why wouldn’t Obama and the DNC want to just get rid of this thing with such a simple record production?
I’m waiting for it to play (takes forever at work). Is it the Berg interview?
YES. I heard McCain bent over backwards to get his credentials in order.
Its a fringe issue, important only to fringe voters.
If this were actually true, even the MSM wouldn’t be able to pass it up. Uncovering such information could make a media career the way Watergate made Woodward and Bernstein household names. And don’t give me the “in the tank for Obama” argument ... because MANY of them were in the tank for Clinton during the primaries.
Obama has been vetted by the McCain campaign, the Clinton campaign, all seven or eight DNC primary opponents, the MSM, Fox News, the conservative media (Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, National Review) ... if this were a legit story, SOMEONE would have found SOMETHING.
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When I took early retirement from my company (I’m still working however since I’m only 60...Thank God I still have work) I had to produce an original of my Birth Certificate and my wife’s birth certificate. Scanned or Faxed copies were not acceptable. Seems like the requirement for proof of birth is a little more lax for Presidential requirements. But I suspect if he can’t produce the original, the DEMS will come back and say it’s a side issue and detracts from the economy issue. Sheesh!
Yes, Piss. I guess as usual you’re about three steps ahead of me. And I like my view. ;-)
I don’t understand this issue. Do people actually think Obama is not really a citizen of the US or that his bc shows embarrasing things on it?
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