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Study: Middle-Age Whites Driving Up U.S. Suicide Rate
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Posted on 10/21/2008 6:10:19 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

The rate of suicide in the United States has risen for the first time in a decade and middle-age white men and women are driving the increase, according to a study from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health’s Center for Injury Research and Policy.

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21 posted on 10/21/2008 7:19:28 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

In a nation that is quickly leaving God, what else can one expect?


22 posted on 10/21/2008 7:26:29 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I know a man whose wife left him for another man. She took their only child with her, and subjected that child to some low-level abuse. That little girl was his heart, and he was agonized to know that the courts would let him do nothing to help her. He was beggared by his ex and the judge, to the extent that he went from being quite prosperous and well-known in his field to living in a room with a mattress, a chair, and a table (the sheriff’s deputies came in and took everything else). His credit was ruined, which made it very hard for him to get another job. Worse, he sold his car to pay the child support, and started riding a bike—and within a few minutes had fallen off the bike, tore up his shoulder painfully, and didn’t have enough money to get his injury surgically repaired (as he was paying for his daughter’s private medical insurance and could afford none for himself).

He was a religious person, but he felt that God had abandoned him and had given the victory to the evil. He thought quite seriously about suicide. Only the knowledge that his daughter needed him to protect her from her mother kept him alive, despite his humiliation, pain, poverty, and losses. I imagine many other people who also are not shallow or materialistic consider suicide after horrendous heartache, chronic pain, injustice, etc., but they don’t have someone to keep them going, and they go ahead with it.

Some compassion is necessary, folks.


23 posted on 10/21/2008 7:48:12 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I imagine a lot of it, in males of that age group, could be called “A loss of confidence of purpose”, and in females, “A loss of social support”.

I distinguish between the two generalizations, both because they are recognized societal expectations, and because both have known biological consequences.

To explain, normal males have a biological prerogative to propagate their DNA; females to both get the best male DNA for their offspring and to get a male provider to help them raise their offspring. This is the underlying biological purpose of marriage, that gives a better outcome to males, females and their offspring than just basic reproduction.

To accomplish this, males have to focus on successful provision, both in competition with other males, and in cooperation with them in an organization or system. This means that males become emotionally dependent on this system, and suffer accordingly if it breaks down. “I’ve been fired, so I’ll kill myself”, is the attitude.

Females, however, are equally dependent on the female social structure, a decentralized support network back at “the base camp”, and on the males who “are out hunting.” If she loses support of this network, and/or her husband-provider, she and her offspring can be in deep trouble. “I or we have lost support, so I’ll kill myself, and maybe the kids, too.”

Variations on this happen even after child rearing is no longer an issue, especially now, when the original paradigm was so bitterly attacked during their childhood. In other words, both the male and female paradigm were strongly attacked in the 1960s.

Sex was for pleasure, and only incidentally for procreation. Females would provide just as well as males, so much that they really didn’t need males. Females no longer needed to network and provide each other mutual support. Marriage could be dispensed with, because it was merely a religious convention, and had no real purpose. Males were purely in competition with each other and didn’t need a cooperative system of employment or loyalty to each other.

In other words, trying to dispense with millions of years of biology, because it was assumed that it was just cultural baggage.

So it is no wonder that children raised in such chaos now find themselves, as adults, without individual or social purpose, alone in a crowd of equally detached people, bereft of sexual relationship as well.

Add to this the obvious and well known dilemmas, such as the emptiness of materialism, the decrepit spiritualism of many religions, and the nagging discomfort of imbalance and disorder of society.

I’m surprised that the suicide rate among such people is as low as it is.


24 posted on 10/21/2008 7:58:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I'd also like to see some sociologist/epidemiologist look at commercial images, which due to politically correct constraints essentially make middle aged white (typically males) the butt of humor. Blunders in the workplace, inability to operate office technology, odd behaviors in office settings, etc. are very common comedy themes in commercials for everything from FedEx to Staples to you-name-it. I find it funny in and of itself that those writing and producing commercials are so incredibly careful to avoid making fun of a character in a commercial who is minority or female that all they are left with is a white male - often older or middle aged. I mean, scope a photo of the latest crop of Microsoft Fellows or the Nobel Prize Winners in almost any hard science field over the last 30-40 years. Older white males may make a good butt of humor in the eyes of the media - but they are not exactly dragging the world in retrograde motion.

I think the dissonance formed between being part of a demographic which is positive (productive, not criminal, innovative, etc.) and yet being the one acceptable target for humor because of what you are may be a significant driver of this phenomenon. This may not amount to a fully developed theory - but perhaps some epidemiologist could get on it.

25 posted on 10/21/2008 8:03:39 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: madison10
About the Sixties: I was there, and I DO remember it.

Happens that I was a techno-geek at the time. Guys like me had no inclination to associate with those long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking FM types out protesting the War.

We were following the space program.

26 posted on 10/21/2008 8:03:52 AM PDT by thulldud (All your rumor are mong to us.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh; All
No doubt Obamatrons are making them feel guilty about their white privilege!


Or as Professor Cheryl I. Harris might put it, they discovered that their Whiteness makes them property!

27 posted on 10/21/2008 8:14:11 AM PDT by Nonperson (Cut off Obama's nut! Prosecute Acorn!)
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To: ottbmare

Reading your story: there *is* a time to go postal. He was there and I certainly would have understood if he had taken matters into his own hands.


28 posted on 10/21/2008 8:28:08 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: roofer13

Hard working whites from about their 40s onward are continualy bombarded with the message from the media that they have become irrelevant. Ageism seems to be perfectly acceptable these days, especially among young people. These suicide statistics are not surprising.


29 posted on 10/21/2008 8:48:37 AM PDT by balls (From each according to his ability. To each according to his need - Karl Marx/Obama)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I watched the first 20 minutes of the first episode of a hit TV show (Desperate Housewives) a few years back and was stunned. I haven’t watched it again because I found it so disturbing. The narrator of the show is having just a normal day and then she kills herself on a whim.

Sometimes, Louis, dead is bettah.


30 posted on 10/21/2008 8:52:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: ottbmare

Yeah, but I haven’t been with a woman since Sputnik.


31 posted on 10/21/2008 8:52:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Sounds racist to me...


32 posted on 10/21/2008 9:13:23 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Tax-chick

“Start by identifying a more useful age range than “40-64.”


Great point, they have generation X, boomers, and silent generation in this study covering a 24 year difference in lives, there is a big difference between a 40 year old’s life and a 64 year old.


33 posted on 10/21/2008 9:14:30 AM PDT by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I hope they are all Democrats.


34 posted on 10/21/2008 9:19:26 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Brother, can you spare a dime?)
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To: balls
Hard working whites from about their 40s onward are continually bombarded with the message from the media that they have become irrelevant.

That's us...the stomped on generation.

35 posted on 10/21/2008 9:57:02 AM PDT by madison10
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To: livius

“Seriously, I think you’ll find a lot of the irreligious, oft-divorced or never married, aging and no longer able to be sexually active, multiple-abortion and insanely materialistic liberals sinking into profound depression as they get older.”

Nihilism is just another word for nothing to live for.


36 posted on 10/21/2008 11:16:37 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: balls; madison10

Then why don’t “hard working whites from about their 40’s onward” just turn the garbage media off? I’m never upset by the content of TV commercials, TV sitcoms/dramas, or TV news, because I don’t watch them. Why just sit in front of the idiot box fuming until you kill yourself?


37 posted on 10/21/2008 12:12:10 PM PDT by Tax-chick (After 5:00 p.m., slip brains through slot in door.)
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To: Tax-chick

I don’t watch TV and can’t stand Hollywood movies, and I’m fine.


38 posted on 10/21/2008 3:41:39 PM PDT by balls (From each according to his ability. To each according to his need - Karl Marx/Obama)
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To: balls

Then you must know about the “media messages” from what you read on Free Republic, like me?

If people are sitting around watching stuff that leads them to feel negatively about themselves, then they had problems before the stupid TV show came on.


39 posted on 10/21/2008 3:43:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (After 5:00 p.m., slip brains through slot in door.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Business failures, divorce, and plunge in a stock market portfolio will do this to you.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 8:11:10 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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