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IRS Filed Tax Lien Against Obama's Mother in 1991
http://bocweb.dlnrbc.hawaii.gov/boc/search.php?offset=456&BusName=&LastName=dunham&FirstName=&SearchBy=GR&DateFrom=&DateTo=&DocType=A&SortBy=name&Nrec=12# ^ | 10/19/2008 | self / State of Hawaii

Posted on 10/19/2008 9:20:15 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE

So I was digging into Mr. Obama/Soetoro/Dunham's past looking for records of Birth, Marriage, Divorce, Name Change, etc on Official State of HI sites and, I found the following:

Document No: R1991155273

Recorded: 1991-11-12

Class: NL (Notice of Lien)

Grantor(s): DUNHAM STANLEY A

SUTORO STANLEY A D

Grantee(s): U S A IRS

TMK:

A little cryptic I know and it is just a document SUMMARY -- but is an official record of a tax lien filed by the IRS against Stanley A Dunham (aka/ Stanley A. D. Sutoro (sic/sp))-- this an offical record with the State of Hawaii's "Bureau of Conveyance" -- I ordered a hard-copy and it is suppose to arrive by US Mail within 14 Days... (I'll post an image as soon as it arrives assuming it contains more data as i am 99% sure it will)

In the meantime a few questions I hope freepers can help with:

1. Is this a "new" discovery? Has anyone else heard an "Obama's mother didn't pay her taxes story?" did Barry make any reference to this in either of his books?" etc?

2. This happened in late 1991 -- was Barry likely in a financial position to help his mom out?

3. Any other thoughts about where/how to follow-up for more details?

It would be helpful to know:

What exactly did the IRS accuse her of? What defense (if any) she offered? What was the final outcome/adjudication? Did the Government ever get paid?

Any thoughts you may have regarding how to pursue these questions would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; dunham; liens; obama; obamafamily; stanelyanndunham; taxes; taxevasion
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To: anniegetyourgun
Me either....but then, I still can’t figure out how a $1200 tax lien for Joe the plumber gets repeated by the MSM for days.

Because he dared to ask "the messiah" a question.

21 posted on 10/19/2008 9:42:43 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: PhilDragoo

If the media was not a pack of communist traitors, Obama would have even trailed Joe Biden in the primary.


22 posted on 10/19/2008 9:43:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Did she ask him for help? Did he even know about the situation? In my opinion there is so much else to go after him about that this could just as well be left alone.


23 posted on 10/19/2008 9:44:43 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

His mom ought to be out of bounds IMHO. She died a fairly horrible death. Let the lady rest in peace, I don’t think she had an easy life at all. Lets let her be.


24 posted on 10/19/2008 9:44:43 PM PDT by Danae (Obama = Trickle up Poverty. Don't like it, get ready to be"reeducated" into it if he is elected.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Next time you post, please put the URL in the “Source URL” field instead of the “Source” field. Thanks so much.


25 posted on 10/19/2008 9:44:45 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (John McCain and Sarah Palin: Reform, Prosperity, and Peace)
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To: PhilDragoo

His harvard education was paid for by a Middle eastener. Yea No $h!t.


27 posted on 10/19/2008 9:46:12 PM PDT by Danae (Obama = Trickle up Poverty. Don't like it, get ready to be"reeducated" into it if he is elected.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

It would be more productive to get public records about AG Beau Biden’s actions against Larry Sinclair, or public records from the Missouri “truth” squads (law enforcement officials and prosecutors defining “lies” in a Presidential campaign), or tracking down an Indonesian passport issued to Barry Soetoro. Much more timely and far more interesting.


28 posted on 10/19/2008 9:46:16 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: PhilDragoo

Bump that!


29 posted on 10/19/2008 9:46:27 PM PDT by txhurl (holy cow - WE ARE OUT OF TIME)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

“But an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census records.”

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/politics/bal-te.obama02mar02,0,3453027.story

If they continue their push for reparations, will he have to pay reparations?


30 posted on 10/19/2008 9:46:55 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

This is the kind of thing that makes me very uncomfortable on both sides of the aisle.... and this is the dark underbelly of the internet I do not like. There is way too much personal information floating around out there to be used against people we have differences with.... and can be used against any one of us at any time — witness Joe the Plumber...


31 posted on 10/19/2008 9:47:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

I’ve been trying to relocate a link. I think it said that Obama and his wife bought a $250,000 home at about that time.


32 posted on 10/19/2008 9:50:03 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: Danae

She is dead and even going there would and will backfire terribly. I notice the poster of this is a new Freeper and I smell we could be being set up to fall into a trap by posting the same kind of crap people post over on KOS.


33 posted on 10/19/2008 9:51:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE
Hasn't he told us that his mother was the most important influence in his life? Therefore — don't her attitudes towards civic duties matter?

Like his having all those parking violations and not paying them for 17 years?

34 posted on 10/19/2008 9:52:19 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE
Let me clarify why i think this IS relevant:

1. It MAY relate to the citizenship issue (at least indirectly) — my best guess is that Obama’s mother rarely (if ever) filed US tax returns while living in Indonesia and Pakistan and yet Americans living abroad are REQUIRED BY LAW to do so. Did she fail to pay taxes becaue she no longer considered half American? How does that reflect on her son's status?

2. It MAY reflect on her patriotism — paying your taxes (like ‘em or not)is the law and a civic duty. Why did she feel exempt from this duty? Was non-payment a form of civil disobedience against a government she hated? ie., did she have some wacky “wesley snipes” defense?

3. The issue has the potential (depending on the facts and Obama’s involvement) to make BHO look like (a) the worlds worst son (for failing to help, etc) and/or (b) make him look like a complete hypocrite on taxes (”everybody needs to “share the wealth” — just not my mom”)

One last thought —

If you had a tax lien filed against you — wouldn't you call your son (the Harvard trained lawyer) for some advice? So how likely is it that BHO doesn't know something about this?

35 posted on 10/19/2008 9:52:55 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("The best is the enemy of the good." Voltaire)
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To: PhilDragoo
Not only is Obama attacking Sarah Palin's daughter and son, attacking Joe the Plumber, attacking McCain's wife--he throws around "brother's keeper" while not sending his brother a dollar a day--disrespects his grandmother for taking the bus to a job to pay for his fancy private school--and let his own mother get into tax arrears while he rode through the nation's premier university on other people's money.

Worth repeating!

36 posted on 10/19/2008 9:55:34 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE
2. This happened in late 1991 -- was Barry likely in a financial position to help his mom out?

Probably not. He was in law school, although at some point during that time, he did get a sizable book advance.

For all anyone knows she didnt even tell him about it. Matter is best left alone.

37 posted on 10/19/2008 9:56:04 PM PDT by freespirited ( We have met the enemy, and he is the MSM.)
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To: greatvikingone
Leave the dead mother alone.

Leave Joe the plumber alone!
38 posted on 10/19/2008 9:57:27 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Danae
"She died a fairly horrible death."

OK, I'm guessing by this post that the woman is diseased. I'd still like to know a little more about her background. Who was this woman and where did she come from. We almost never hear anything about her. certainly her son never talks about her in any detail. She was a white women so I'm just wondering what Barack's thoughts on that are since he seems to think of himself as exclusively black. Is that not a form of racism?

39 posted on 10/19/2008 9:58:37 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: redpoll

Not sure who said the quote but it goes something like: “If you don’t stand up and fight while you can still win, some day you will be forced to fight when you are sure to lose”.


40 posted on 10/19/2008 9:58:57 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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