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What the debtslavers are doing to protect their interests. You can bet they won't be doing anything to help credit card holders, although there is some silver lining in that they're not issuing as many credit cards.
1 posted on 10/18/2008 6:58:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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and no more credit cards for dogs either


2 posted on 10/18/2008 7:00:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's the socialism, stupid.)
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I had no idea a credit card company, also known as banks, forced people to shop shop shop till they drop.


3 posted on 10/18/2008 7:03:50 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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Mess up once and that's it, you're out of luck. Banks won't hesitate to increase your interest rate or impose big fees if you pay late, etc. It used to be that if you were a good customer, you could call and basically apologize, explain your mistake, and ask that the fee be removed or your rate re-adjusted. But no longer. Card companies are holding firm to their punishments, and no amount of cajoling will change their minds.

This seems counterproductive to me. Someone having issues with paying their credit card payment on time, gets slapped with higher interest rates. Or if they are late on only one payment.

Aren't they shooting themselves in the foot by making it harder for people to pay off their balances?

That said, I pay all of my bills on time. Thankfully!

4 posted on 10/18/2008 7:07:19 PM PDT by nralife (www.gunbanobama.com)
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I just called Wells Fargo today and got my rate lowered and they informed my that my limit has been increased by another 2K. Of course it help that I pay on time and in full every month. I think that if a person is a responsible borrower they should be able to weather this storm just fine.


6 posted on 10/18/2008 7:07:56 PM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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Sounds like John Q. Public needs to do some “plastic surgery” (cut up his credit cards) and pay off his balance. Then the creditors won’t have to worry about doing business with him!


8 posted on 10/18/2008 7:09:46 PM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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It must be true I have been mailed those blank checks just a few time this month.
11 posted on 10/18/2008 7:13:10 PM PDT by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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“Behind the changes is the simple fact that lenders want to protect themselves from BAD debt...”

Sounds reasonable to me. Good for them!


14 posted on 10/18/2008 7:16:57 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Voting proudly for GOVERNOR Palin for VP!)
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There is still a good possibility that credit card companies may be forced to cancel cards for a broad range of holders. If things get very bad, then they may have to suspend all credit cards.

In either case, since very large numbers of people are dependent on their month-to-month credit balance, living “behind” by a month, this might cause another phenomenon—the death of the bank check.

Though it is not a credit instrument, a massive surge in check overdrafts to pay monthly expenses, because of credit card cancellations, could force banks to discontinue checking nationwide. Conversely, retailers could cause the same result by just refusing to honor bank checks.

Nationwide, this would force most retail business to be done with debit cards or, to a much lesser extent, cash. And there is no choice in this, because only about 5% of our retail economy is backed by paper currency. Most banks only have perhaps $30-50,000 cash at any given time.

Ironically, because many transactions cannot be done with debit cards, this could cause massive deflation of paper currency alone. That is, debit transactions for $1 would cost $1, but perhaps only 10 cents, if paid for in cash.

And how many people do you think have more than $200 in cash at home?

For this reason, purely on painless speculation, it would probably be a very good idea to keep a few thousand dollars cash in a safe place in your home.


17 posted on 10/18/2008 7:23:01 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I've managed to never have credit card debt. I've also managed to say home with both my kids. I've had times where things were tight and we've shared one car.

Ten years later, I am still debt free and own two homes. I've been to Thailand, Bora Bora and Europe in the last five years.

19 posted on 10/18/2008 7:24:41 PM PDT by riri
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So let’s recap just what CBS is whining about:

- Even though I (and anyone else who manages to actually pay his debts) am getting credit card offers by the boatload, the lowest-common-denominator “pre-approved” offers are finally decreasing in quantity, so somewhere someone who doesn’t pay his debts might not keep receiving ready-to-go cards in the mail, so when he maxes his latest one he’ll actually have to put forth the effort to get another one to shift his balance to.

- In a tight credit market, doing things like not paying your bills, carrying large balances, constantly overdrawing your account, and other actions that say “I’m very likely to default on the money you lent me!” may actually make lenders want to lend you less. The audacity!

- Whereas in the past if you called and complained to customer service enough, they’d cave in and drop the charges every time you exceeded your limits or skipped a payment, now lenders are *actually* making the penalties stick when you repeatedly skip out on payments.

As someone recently out of college with a very modest income who makes it a point to buy what he can afford and pay off his balance every month, I’m feel so badly that life is getting ever-so-slightly more difficult for the bums who decide to upgrade their cell phones instead of paying the minimum on their outrageous shopping debt. When O’Teleprompter jacks taxes up even higher, maybe “community” organizers can use the extra money taken from me to help bail out my peers who enjoy throwing away triple the money I do to keep up the same lifestyle they had when Daddy was paying the bills...


22 posted on 10/18/2008 7:29:55 PM PDT by BobbyT
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I don’t carry credit card debt, or car notes either. Except for a very modest mortgage, I owe nothing.

But this move by the banks is going to have temporary adverse affects on the economy.

The economy is largely based on consumer spending as well as the jobs of millions. In addition, this can cause deflationary pressure as credit is a big part of the money supply.


25 posted on 10/18/2008 7:32:31 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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Looks like my plan to never, ever allow the credit card companies to collect a single penny of interest from me is paying off.


36 posted on 10/18/2008 7:51:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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My wife and I are now on credit cards with a $1300 total limit. One card is at $300 and the other is $1000. The one at $1000, I tried to get it down to $500 but the company won't drop it anymore. Plus it cuts my wife's spending in this tight time. The card is 0% for 12 months and then goes to a low rate. I plan for now on keeping a running balance of around $750 - pay $250 each month. She is already complaining of a card being declined and I told her that it already hit the limit. The limits are set as "hard", therefore, not run the risk of overcharging and incurring a penalty fee.

She cannot get credit since hers is bad but I have good credit. I have a couple of "shelved cards" that are at $20k.

One thing about credit cards, I hate the d@mn things !
44 posted on 10/18/2008 8:13:57 PM PDT by CORedneck
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I sure don’t see any evidence of it.

I just got my new MC renewal card feom BofA with the same $30k limit and their standard BS to transfer accounts for 0% interest.


52 posted on 10/18/2008 8:41:19 PM PDT by dalereed
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whats the point of all this......ALL those ideas are great and understandable and its amazing to me what I can get away with concerning the credit card companies...free miles, free hotels, free balance transfers, etc etc...

why should CC companies have to cater to the lowest common denominator....

61 posted on 10/18/2008 10:27:14 PM PDT by cherry
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Debt Free Woot


62 posted on 10/18/2008 10:30:11 PM PDT by downwdims (If Peace is the answer it must be a stupid question)
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The Article misses the real issue.

Credit card companies are raising their rates. They re-disclose (no body reads the fine print) and I have seen some like this:

28.5% APR on the AVERAGE balance outstanding.Also the monthly payment has been lowered so that if you run the amortization, (monthly payments to maturity) some cards will take close to 20 years to pay out.

Debtslavers? You bet!

71 posted on 10/19/2008 4:15:03 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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