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Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists discovered in police raids
Times UK ^ | 10/16/08 | Richard Kerbaj and Dominic Kennedy

Posted on 10/16/2008 2:36:31 PM PDT by pissant

A link between terrorism plots and hardcore child pornography is becoming clear after a string of police raids in Britain and across the Continent, an investigation by The Times has discovered. Images of child abuse have been found during Scotland Yard antiterrorism swoops and in big inquiries in Italy and Spain.

Secret coded messages are being embedded into child pornographic images, and paedophile websites are being exploited as a secure way of passing information between terrorists.

British security services are also aware of the trend and believe that it requires further investigation to improve understanding of terrorists’ methods and mindsets. Concerns within the Metropolitan Police led to a plan to run a pilot research project exploring the nature of the link. One source familiar with the proposal said that this could eventually lead to the training of child welfare experts to identify signs of terrorist involvement as they monitor pornographic sites.

Concerns have already been expressed at Cabinet minister level about the risk of vulnerable Muslim youths being exploited by older men.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; crushislam; goats; immigration; islam; obamasfriends; pedophiles; terrorists; wot
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Imagine that. Obama's islamic supporters are showing their true colors.
1 posted on 10/16/2008 2:36:33 PM PDT by pissant
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To: knighthawk

Ping


2 posted on 10/16/2008 2:41:24 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: pissant; Grizzled Bear; Mr. Silverback; StarCMC; mkjessup; Old Sarge

PING: What a surprise: muslim terrorists are child molestering perverts, too.


3 posted on 10/16/2008 2:43:28 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: pissant
British security services are also aware of the trend and believe that it requires further investigation to improve understanding of terrorists’ methods and mindsets. Concerns within the Metropolitan Police led to a plan to run a pilot research project exploring the nature of the link.
Not too hard to figure out. They're just following their pedophile "prophet," Mad Mo.
4 posted on 10/16/2008 2:45:41 PM PDT by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: pissant

I guess narcotics are not enough anymore.
You know, with all of the nefarious criminal activities these guys are involved in, law enforcement should just back off and let the mafia and the rest of zeros’ supporters fight it out amongst themselves. It will save a lot of money and prison space.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 2:50:38 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: pissant

Obama’s marxist hero in Hawaii Frank Marshall Davis was a pedophile, bisexual and sex addict. Obama even wrote Davis a creepy poem.

Most of the web sites say little about the “things” Davis liked to do because it was so disgusting.

http://thelonggoodbye.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/barack-obama-and-frank-marshall-davis/


6 posted on 10/16/2008 3:04:46 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: pissant; SJackson; Alouette; SandRat; river rat; AuntB; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

While I deteste radical Islam, THAT is a connection I never would have imagined.


7 posted on 10/16/2008 3:09:10 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: pissant

This doesn’t sound too smart to me. If you want to keep the communications steganography a secret, why would you select a medium that is more likely to attract the attention of police the world over?

Wouldn’t it be better to embed the messages in landscape photos on some travel forum, or something like that?


8 posted on 10/16/2008 3:10:29 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: pissant

http://afghanistanis1.tripod.com/id21.html

Kandahar’s Lightly Veiled Homosexual Habits
Los Angeles Times, April 3, 2002

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-000023881apr03.story

By Maura Reynolds, Times Staff Writer

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan—In his 29 years, Mohammed Daud has seen the faces of perhaps 200 women. A few dozen were family members. The rest were glimpses stolen when he should not have been looking and the women were caught without their face-shrouding burkas.

“How can you fall in love with a girl if you can’t see her face?” he asks.

Daud is unmarried and has sex only with men and boys. But he does not consider himself homosexual, at least not in the Western sense. “I like boys, but I like girls better,” he says. “It’s just that we can’t see the women to see if they are beautiful. But we can see the boys, and so we can tell which of them is beautiful.”

Daud, a motorbike repairman who asked that only his two first names and not his family name be used, has a youthful face, a jaunty black mustache and a post-Taliban cleanshaven chin. As he talks, his knee bounces up and down, an involuntary sign of his embarrassment.

“These are hard questions you are asking,” he says. “We don’t usually talk about such things.”

Though rarely acknowledged, the prevalence of sex between Afghan men is an open secret, one most observant visitors quickly surmise. Ironically, it is especially true here in Kandahar, which was the heartland of the puritanical Taliban movement.

It might seem odd to a Westerner that such a sexually repressive society is marked by heightened homosexual activity. But Justin Richardson, a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University, says such thinking is backward—it is precisely the extreme restrictions on sexual relations with women that lead to greater prevalence of the behavior.

“In some Muslim societies where the prohibition against premarital heterosexual intercourse is extremely high—higher than that against sex between men—you will find men having sex with other males not because they find them most attractive of all but because they find them most attractive of the limited options available to them,” Richardson says.

In other words, sex between men can be seen as the flip side of the segregation of women. And perhaps because the ethnic Pushtuns who dominate Kandahar are the most religiously conservative of Afghanistan’s major ethnic groups, they have, by most accounts, a higher incidence of homosexual relations.

Visitors might think they see the signs. For one thing, Afghan men tend to be more intimate with other men in public than is common in the West. They will kiss, hold hands and drape their arms around each other while drinking tea or talking.

Moreover, there is a strong streak of dandyism among Pushtun males. Many line their eyes with kohl, stain their fingernails with henna or walk about town in clumsy, high-heeled sandals.

The love by men for younger, beautiful males, who are called halekon, is even enshrined in Pushtun literature. A popular poem by Syed Abdul Khaliq Agha, who died last year, notes Kandahar’s special reputation.

“Kandahar has beautiful halekon,” the poem goes. “They have black eyes and white cheeks.”

But a visitor who comments on such things is likely to be told they are not signs of homosexuality. Hugging doesn’t mean sex, locals insist. Men who use kohl and henna are simply “uneducated.”

Regardless, when asked directly, few deny that a significant percentage of men in this region have sex with men and boys. Just ask Mullah Mohammed Ibrahim, a local cleric.

“Ninety percent of men have the desire to commit this sin,” the mullah says. “But most are right with God and exercise control. Only 20 to 50% of those who want to do this actually do it.”

Following the mullah’s math, this suggests that between 18% and 45% of men here engage in homosexual sex—significantly higher than the 3% to 7% of American men who, according to studies, identify themselves as homosexual.

That is a large number to defy the strict version of Islam practiced in these parts, which denounces sex between men as taboo. Muslims seeking council from religious elders on the topic will find them unsympathetic.

“Every person has a devil inside him,” says Ibrahim. “If a person commits this sin, it is the work of the devil.”

The Koran mandates “hard punishment” for offenders, the mullah explains. By tradition there are three penalties: being burned at the stake, pushed over the edge of a cliff or crushed by a toppled wall.

During its reign in Kandahar, the Taliban implemented the latter. In February 1998, it used a tank to push a brick wall on top of three men, two accused of sodomy and the third of homosexual rape. The first two died; the third spent a week in the hospital and, under the assumption that God had spared him, was sent to prison. He served six months and fled to Pakistan.

Apparently to discourage post-Taliban visitors, the owners of a nearby house have begun rebuilding on the site.

“A lot of foreigners came and started interviewing people,” says Abdul Baser, a 24-year-old neighbor, who points out the trench where the men were crushed. “Since then they have rebuilt the wall.”

But many accuse the Taliban of hypocrisy on the issue of homosexuality.

“The Taliban had halekon, but they kept it secret,” says one anti-Taliban commander, who is rumored to keep two halekon. “They hid their halekon in their madrasas,” or religious schools.

It’s not only religious authorities who describe homosexual sex as common among the Pushtun.

Dr. Mohammed Nasem Zafar, a professor at Kandahar Medical College, estimates that about 50% of the city’s male residents have sex with men or boys at some point in their lives. He says the prime age at which boys are attractive to men is from 12 to 16—before their beards grow in. The adolescents sometimes develop medical problems, which he sees in his practice, such as sexually transmitted diseases and sphincter incontinence. So far, the doctor said, AIDS does not seem to be a problem in Afghanistan, probably because the country is so isolated.

“Sometimes when the halekon grow up, the older men actually try to keep them in the family by marrying them off to their daughters,” the doctor says.

Zafar cites a local mullah whom he caught once using the examination table in the doctor’s one-room clinic for sex with a younger man. “If this is our mullah, what can you say for the rest?” Zafar asks.

Richardson, the psychiatry professor, says it would be wrong to call Afghan men homosexual, since their decision to have sex with men is not a reflection of what Westerners call gender identity. Instead, he compares them to prison inmates: They have sex with men primarily because they find themselves in a situation where men are more available as sex partners than are women.

“It is something they do,” he notes, “not something they are.”

Daud, the motorbike repairman, would concur that the segregation of women lies at the heart of the matter.

Daud says his first sexual experience with a man occurred when he was 20, about the time he realized that he would have difficulty marrying. In Pushtun culture, the man has to pay for his wedding and for gifts and clothes for the bride and her family. For many men, the bill tops $5,000—such an exorbitant sum in this impoverished country that some men, including Daud, are dissuaded from even trying.

“I would like to get married, but the economic situation in our country makes it hard,” Daud says.

Daud talked about his sex life only in private and after being assured that no photos would be taken.

“I have relations with different boys—some for six months, some for one month. Some are with me for six years,” he says. “The problem is also money. If you want to have a relationship with a boy, you have to buy things for him. That’s why it’s not bad for the boy. Some relationships need a lot of money, some not so much. Sometimes I fix a motorbike and give it to him as a present.”

It is not easy to conduct homosexual affairs, he admits. Home is out of the question.

“If my father were to find me, he’d kick me out of the house,” Daud says. “If you want to have sex, you have to find a secret place. Some go to the mountains or the desert.”

Opinions differ as to whether homosexual practices in Kandahar are becoming more open or more closed since the Taliban was defeated.

For instance, after anti-Taliban forces arrived in the city in early December, some Westerners reported seeing commanders going about town openly with their halekon. But that has changed in recent weeks since Kandahar’s new governor, Gul Agha Shirzai, issued an order banning boys under 18 from living with troops. Officially, the ban is aimed at ending the practice of using children as soldiers.

“It is not that way,” says one of the governor’s top aides, Engineer Yusuf Pashtun, objecting to the insinuation that the boys may have been used for sex. The governor’s order said only that “no boys should be recruited in the army before the age of 18,” he adds.

Still, the anti-Taliban commander, who is close to Shirzai, acknowledged that one goal of the order was to keep halekon out of the barracks. The move simply drove the practice underground, he says.

Zafar, the doctor, says that in the community at large the Taliban frightened many men into abstinence. “Under the Taliban, no more than 10% practiced homosexual sex,” he says. “But now the government isn’t paying attention, so it may go back up to 50%.”

But Daud thinks the opposite may happen. If coeducation returns and the dress code for women eases, men will have fewer reasons to seek solace in the beds—or fields or storage rooms—of other men.

“As for me, if I find someone and see she is beautiful, I will send my mother over to her” to ask for her hand in marriage, Daud says. “I’m just waiting to see her.”

Reynolds was recently on assignment in Kandahar.


Homosexual Practice Back in Kandahar
Gay.com U.K., January 15, 2002

SUMMARY: Taliban rule is over in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and Western journalists have already noted that traditions of homosexuality are re-emerging.

Taliban rule is over in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and Western journalists have already noted that traditions of homosexuality are re-emerging.

Kandahar’s Pashtuns have started to become visible again with their “ashna”—teenagers who are groomed for sex. Before the Taliban took over in 1994, Pashtuns could be seen everywhere with their young boys on whom they showered expensive gifts. Living in poverty, the boys could not refuse the Pashtuns.

Once a boy becomes the property of a Pashtun, who is usually married with a wife and family, he is marked out. The Kandaharis, however, accept Pashtun relationships as part of their culture. Pashtun and their ashna “beloveds” have been part of everyday life for centuries.

“In the days of the Mujahidin, there were men with their ashna everywhere, at every corner, in shops, on the streets, in hotels: It was completely open, a part of life,” Torjan, 38, one of the soldiers loyal to Kandahar’s new governor, Gul Agha Sherzai, told the Times newspaper.

“They are just emerging again,” Torjan said. “The fighters too now have the boys in their barracks. This was brought to the attention of Gul Agha, who ordered the boys to be expelled, but it continues. The boys live with the fighters very openly. In a short time, and certainly within a year, it will be like pre-Taliban: They will be everywhere.”


9 posted on 10/16/2008 3:11:45 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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To: pissant
Islam and children

Adults only. It you are easily offended, don't look. If you look and are offended, don't complain.
10 posted on 10/16/2008 3:16:48 PM PDT by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“What a surprise: muslim terrorists are child molestering perverts, too.”

It’s quite entrenched in the culture. Beardless dancing boys and man-luv Thursday.


11 posted on 10/16/2008 3:17:07 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: pissant
The terrorist are just following the example set by the prophet who molested children and murdered innocent people.
12 posted on 10/16/2008 3:19:12 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: pissant; NYer
The type of homosexuality experienced in the Middle East Muslim world is what happens when human sexuality is perverted via oppression.

Since science can only point to symptoms and find the original “hot zone” of a virus of bad behavior, spirituality knows the author of this wrong behavior. Satan has made war on mankind and uses mankind's natural differences to incite unnatural divisions. In this case, Satan has turned men against women to incite a perverted demonic behavior that looks upon the weaker members of human society as “property”.

Thankfully, since this area of the world passionately believes in and worships the the God of Abraham, they will also understand the Theology of the Body per Pope JP2’s visions. This revelation will make it easier for God-lovers to reject bad behavior in favor of proper relationships with God, spouse, and neighbor.

Sexuality must be mastered, or we will be enslaved by our own sexual desires.

13 posted on 10/16/2008 3:19:40 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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To: SaltyJoe

Just remember, Imadimwitrat said there are no poofers in Iran.


14 posted on 10/16/2008 3:23:13 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Ramius

“Wouldn’t it be better to embed the messages in landscape photos on some travel forum, or something like that?”

You’d better check the democrat propaganda machine a.k.a the MSM.


15 posted on 10/16/2008 3:30:07 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: pissant

I guess muslims would take offense at hiding data in pictures of naked women.


16 posted on 10/16/2008 3:30:52 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: pissant

It would be unfair at this point to remind readers that Mohammed was a pedophile.


17 posted on 10/16/2008 3:32:18 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bushonomics: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses......."PAULSON'S THEFT")
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To: Clintonfatigued

“While I deteste radical Islam, THAT is a connection I never would have imagined.”

Probably served as a pretty good cover for a while. Decent people certainly wouldn’t be checking there.


18 posted on 10/16/2008 3:32:21 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: pissant

Satan makes use of whatever human heart is offered whether in the USA or Iran.


19 posted on 10/16/2008 3:33:08 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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To: Ramius
Pornography is a serious addiction especially for men.

Research why fanatical Islamic societies have problems with aggressive homosexuality (I posted an article on this thread).

When you let the “genie out of the bottle”, so to say (in this case homosexuality and gay porn), it's a Pandora’s box to close. The only One more powerful than sin is God, Himself.

20 posted on 10/16/2008 3:36:11 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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