Posted on 10/15/2008 10:46:55 PM PDT by Chet 99
(CBS) A majority of uncommitted voters (39 percent) who watched Wednesday's third and final presidential debate felt Sen. John Kerry won, though nearly as many (36 percent) thought the result was a tie, and about one-quarter gave the debate to President Bush.
Immediately after the debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally representative sample of more than 200 debate watchers assembled by Knowledge Networks who were "uncommitted voters" - voters who are either undecided about who to vote for or who have a preference but say they could still change their minds.
During the debate, women frequently registered more positive reactions to Kerry, and the final poll results also indicate that. Men and women uncommitted voters each saw a different winner in tonight's debate. Half of women named Kerry the winner while men divided evenly Mr. Bush 32 percent, Kerry 29 percent.
These uncommitted voters said the debates had helped them decide whom to vote for this year.
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MSM: Don’t try to confuse me with the past!
Nice bit of history.
“39% is not a majority.”
Yes, I believe we call that a plurality, as in, “Bush won the 2004 presidential election with a plurality of the popular vote.”
A security-minded "centrist" will defeat the stealth Marxist.
Then, it will be time to see what happens in the streets, from the growing army of the proletariat.
Comments on women and independent reaction are practically word-for-word.
The Internet will kill MSM. People could not cross-reference at this speed 20 years ago. Now, the patterns can be exposed before the closing credits roll off the screen...
I heard a liberal crybaby on the news tonight complaining about people comparing “polls” from the previous elections to the “polls” for this election. We really need to keep this up. If nothing else, it’s driving the liberal crybabies in the Obamedia crazy. LOL!
“uncommitted”, my skinny rear end.
Bush was never even remotely close to being this far down in the polls completely across the board.
Bush was only down once in two of the 15 tracking polls from mid August on.
This is way different.
Our only hope is a tightening...which I think we will get and a huge turnout for our side.
Given early voting returns from the hood, the other side is sure turning out.
Prayer might help too.
I continue to give but let me explain what happened today. I went to the TN Women's Rep Committee here in Nashville which is handling the campaign in my part of town.
No big sings which I've asked for for two weeks now for a 40K traffic spot i own and I was prepared to give another 1000 buck but they couldn't take a two 500 dollar business checks...LOL
let me tell you....at least here...this campaign is fubar.
Bush both times...hell even Dole too were better organized
our statewide senate races respond quicker
now....i know TN is “safe” so they don't want to spend here but not taking my money like they normally do.
it's a Bastogne moment
Selective memory to fit your agenda.
Bush was an incumbent president. It was the MSM mantra then to note that an incumbent president polling as badly as Bush was never won. Ever. Undecideds all go to the challenger. Yada yada.
I don’t recall the massive oversample of Democrats either. We may go down, but it won’t be nearly as bad as the media show us.
And I think we will eek a victory when all is said and done. Evangelicals and Conservative Democrats WILL Vote for the McCain / PALIN ticket.
I do agree, that the ground operation has been sloppy so far. People are not getting signs or stickers. Took me 3 weeks to get my lawnsign from the McCain website. That’s just sloppy.
Let’s hope that McCain’s upcoming ad blitz builds on the themes touched on today.
Bush won a majority of the popular vote in 2004.
I choose to think the 13 of 15 polls that never showed Kerry ahead after mid August were more accurate than the two that on one occasion showed Kerry slightly ahead.
This race is more like 2000 actually but right about now is where Bush after Gore's boorish and arrogant debating starting moving up and eclipsed Gore's 4-9 point mid October lead until the end November 7th when Bush's DUI moved the polls back to a toss up in the final poll.
These are the facts, choose to ignore them if you'd like.
We are behind in the polls, it's no lie but given the weighting we are closer than they indicate and have a good chance to close the gap and win given a nice turnout.
You folks who think all is rosy and that the polls are one big lie are doing so in defiance of polling the past 2 POTUS election cycle that in the aggregate has been within the margin of error accurate.
I bet I have studied the polls more than almost anynone here. If you don;t believe me when I show charts (you've seen them) on 2004 and that Bush was never really in trouble last 2 months of that race then prove me otherwise.
If you can't do that then continue to be obtuse.
Once again 2004
and 2000 Zogby
They are again invoking the Great Depression mantra. Strange how quickly we have forgotten the high unemployment and double digit inflation of those far away late 70's. Gas lines, price controls, stagflation, and mortgage rates that make today's credit card rates seem good were somehow not as bad as today's failed Bush economic policies.
Time for them to write a new script.
What about the Brady factor- the idea that 5% will say that they will vote for Obama reasons, but will actually pull the lever for McCain?
I don’t believe it.
White liberals love to announce they are voting for a “colored man”.
Nothing quite sates the kneejerk need to feel righteous like doing so.
Hope I’m wrong.
btw...it’s the Bradley-Wilder effect..
Also to note, Rush said today the media got the DNC
talking points before the debate.
They said that if Obama just held his own he would win the debate and McCain loses. McCain ‘s anger came through and diminished his standing.
The post debate analysis is coincidental to those talking points. The FOX News debate analysts seem to have parallel
views.
As much as I can research,... the polls in 00 and 04 were not oversampled as they are reported to be now or at least they weren’t reported or spoken / written about afterward or during those two elections.
As well we have a MSM that EVEN INCLUDES FOX that just continue to KISS BHO’s BUTT in the light of day when he lies and deceives yet they as well as the rest turn a blind eye to truth.
McCain wasn’t even on my list of choices. Yet he is only one in a position to beat Hussein Obambi ! So as you do I back his campaign .
I am hoping that the polls are tainted and padded, the voter fraud is countered early enough . As well Americans that didn’t spend 4 years in 3rd grade (democrats) lose big when the silent majority steps up and saves our republic again !
Stay safe WD !
Same as it ever was.
LLS
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