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Presidential Debate #3 Live Thread - 9:00 Eastern
The Collective Wisdom of Free Republic ^ | 10/15/08 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 10/15/2008 2:02:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

Let's light this candle!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; antichrist; burqabama; crapforbrains; debate; election; fauxnews; iamwearingadiaper; jobamaobiden; keywordabuse; luntzsux; mccain; obama; obamabinbiden; oopsicrappedmypants; ostrichbrigade; senatordouchebag
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To: beckysueb

I think it was a calculation. Reportedly, they’re going to sock it to BO next week. This builds up the intensity regardless.


6,741 posted on 10/16/2008 12:43:45 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Never tell me the odds!" -- Han Solo)
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To: floriduh voter
Greta Van Susteren said Ayers was there and Fox cut to commercial and it was dropped.

Thanks for the elaboration! I would have loved to see Ayers face last night.

6,742 posted on 10/16/2008 12:51:27 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: floriduh voter
If Bambi can't debate without Ayers being there, Ayers is his Linus blanket imo.

Teleprompter or Ayers I guess. I think you are correct -- probably some coaching going on after the debate too.

6,743 posted on 10/16/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: 1035rep

I just got hit with the mantra again:

“It just won’t matter.”

How many times have you heaard that the past few weAks? Modified my tagline:


6,744 posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:23 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Han Solo -- "It just wonÂ’t matter? Turn that droid off. Never tell me the odds!")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
How many times have you heaard that the past few weAks?

Plenty! They're a bunch of thumbsuckers! 

6,745 posted on 10/16/2008 12:57:31 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: murron

Do You Want a Left-Handed President?
Last Updated Oct 2008

A surprisingly high percentage of Oval Office occupants are southpaws.

By David Grossberg

They say that a week in politics is like a year in anything else. The unpredictability of the world, good old-fashioned mudslinging and the fickleness of voters make prophesying election outcomes a tricky business. But this year’s presidential election holds one certainty: Your next president will be left handed. Yes, both John McCain and Barack Obama are southpaws.

Only about 10 percent of the population is left-handed. In the early 20th century with Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency, a remarkable one-third of our nation’s presidents have been left-handed. With the guarantee of a leftie winning this year’s election, the percentage will increase to 36.

The 1992 election was particularly interesting, as the main contenders were George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton and H. Ross Perot. All three are left-handed. The other presidential lefties include Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Gerald R. Ford and Ronald Reagan.

http://autographmagazine.com/tabid/73/itemid/208/Do-You-Want-a-LeftHanded-President.aspx

$$$$

Reagan wrote with his right hand, but was a natural lefthander. As a lefthander, who switched my writing hand, I have followed this peculiar attribute of US presidents for years.


6,746 posted on 10/16/2008 1:21:22 PM PDT by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I think I understand most of what you are saying, and generally agree. However, $12,000 may not be so far off, after all, for a group / employer (partially) paid plan: I pulled out my 2007 W2 again, and the difference between my “Federal” wages and my “State” (and “Local”) wages is about $12,000. I believe that $12,000 represents what my employer and I were paying for the health care plan for my family and I.

By comparison, in 2003, the Federal and State wages figures were the same, as the health care premiums were not deducted off my (Federal) gross income.

That all brings up another question: Obama keeps saying that health care benefits have never been taxed. Huh? That health care premium “difference” that was not taken off my (Federal) gross income a few years back most certainly DID contribute heavily to my income tax burden. Taking that off the (Federal) gross helped lower my taxes quite a bit in recent years. It certainly helped more than the tax rate cuts (which also helped significantly, and I have a very average income and situation.)

Anyway, Obama could argue that we should not reverse that recent years’ subtraction off the W2 “line 1” gross income. But, noting that my employer paid for most of my own health insurance, and I paid the rest, and everything for the rest of my family, in previous years, I was most certainly taxed on my family’s health care premium.


6,747 posted on 10/16/2008 1:52:42 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: tuckrdout

I absolutely agree. McCain missed a real opportunity to point out that education is a CLEAR example of a problem not solved by throwing more money at it.


6,748 posted on 10/16/2008 1:54:32 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: uncbob
I'm quite familiar with the HUAC episode, and also quite familiar with McCarthy's Wheeling speech. Likewise, pegging Hollywood's elite as communists was accurate (check Ann Coulter's "McCarthy was Right" article).

Thanks.

6,749 posted on 10/16/2008 2:04:15 PM PDT by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: maica
I'm quite familiar with the HUAC episode, and also quite familiar with McCarthy's Wheeling speech. Likewise, pegging Hollywood's elite as communists was accurate (check Ann Coulter's "McCarthy was Right" article).

Thanks.

6,750 posted on 10/16/2008 2:04:53 PM PDT by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: Right Wing Assault; Albion Wilde; potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP

I sent this e-mail to pbs:

David Brooks needs to apologize for his comment after Wednesday’s debate that McCain looked tight in the shoulders, while Obama looked loose. Brooks said he couldn’t imagine America wanting to “look at that” for the next four years. Sen. McCain received permanent shoulder injuries due to torture by the N. Vietnamese. For one, I don’t mind being reminded of his and our other soldiers’ sacrifices in that and other wars. What vacuous and insensitive “commentary” from a so-called intellectual.


6,751 posted on 10/16/2008 2:08:12 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: mlocher

Chat thread on Ayers at debate. Unless the media reports it as news, it will be in chat.


6,752 posted on 10/16/2008 2:11:42 PM PDT by floriduh voter (ODINGA, YOU HAVE MAIL FROM YOUR AMERICAN COUNTERPART!)
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To: floriduh voter

Thanks! Somewhere between our two posts, someone said that FOX news reported it, but only very briefly.


6,753 posted on 10/16/2008 2:19:08 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: ntnychik
David Brooks needs to apologize for his comment...

David Brooks will probably reply, "Oh, I didn't realize he was in the miltary!" He think tries to act intellectual and impartial, but this shows where he REALLY is coming from. I saw him say this and was repulsed.

"Hey, Chuck, stand up!"

6,754 posted on 10/16/2008 2:49:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: ntnychik
David Brooks needs to apologize for his comment after Wednesday’s debate that McCain looked tight in the shoulders, while Obama looked loose. Brooks said he couldn’t imagine America wanting to “look at that” for the next four years. Sen. McCain received permanent shoulder injuries due to torture by the N. Vietnamese. For one, I don’t mind being reminded of his and our other soldiers’ sacrifices in that and other wars. What vacuous and insensitive “commentary” from a so-called intellectual.

Excellent!!

6,755 posted on 10/16/2008 2:57:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: 1035rep
What They're Saying About John McCain at the Hofstra Debate

And any good lefty reporter would add, "But, all that said, it is obvious obama won this debate."

6,756 posted on 10/16/2008 2:59:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: ntnychik; devolve

[ that McCain looked tight in the shoulders ]

Just another example of how uninformed these people are. Remember the comment about McCain not even using a computer?

His fingers don’t work well enough. His left arm is damaged from torture.

You would think if people want to write commentaries on politics they would be well informed about both candidates.

You would think.....


6,757 posted on 10/16/2008 3:02:24 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: af_vet_rr

I’ve been noticing your comments. All of them have been negative. I take it you don’t like Senator McCain much. Not trying to tell you what to do but maybe we should not try to discourage the folks when everyone is so happy about McCains performance at last nights debate.


6,758 posted on 10/16/2008 3:20:44 PM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: Salamander

I have no reason to doubt what you say. But who is TEO?

And for whatever it’s worth, regarding your comment about supposedly “good” people with bad auras, well, one of the pastors I greatly admire is Tony Evans and Tony has an old quote that goes like this, “Where does the Devil sit? In the first pew.”

A lot of truth in that.


6,759 posted on 10/16/2008 3:35:24 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: casinva

That’s great!


6,760 posted on 10/16/2008 4:36:27 PM PDT by heatherlund (Get OUT and VOTE for McCain if you LOVE your Country!)
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