Posted on 10/15/2008 11:28:23 AM PDT by pissant
No it isn’t. And some dumbass newbie telling me how to use the search function here has a troll like quality to it.
You are right, Malkin is doing an awesome job this election cycle.
For that matter the Palestra crew in Ohio are also.
Greta on Fox ran with a little of this earlier. THIS IS REPORTING, Fox needs to hire these Young People from Palestra NOW!
Re: troll-like qualities.... Yeah, I was wondering about Buckeye12’s posts the other day. Do you know how to get a troll tombstoned around here? I’ve not done it before.
Still doesnt address the fact that your post has no legal ground, and is the knee jerk reaction to someone elses uninformed opinion
You are qualified to register to vote in Ohio if you meet all the following requirements: 1. You are a citizen of the United States; 2. You will be at least 18 years old on or before the day of the general election. (If you will be 18 on or before November 4, you may vote in the primary election for candidates, but you cannot vote on issues until you are 18); 3. You will be a resident of Ohio for at least 30 days immediately before the election in which you want to vote; 4. You are not incarcerated (in prison or jail) for a felony conviction under the laws of this state, another state or the United States; 5. You have not been declared incompetent for voting purposes by a probate court; and 6. You have not been permanently disenfranchised for violations of the election laws.
Yes, these people will be living in the state for 30 days priors to the election. Which is the same part of the law that allows college students to vote here in Ohio, as opposed to their home state. I fail to see where I was proved wrong, unless you think that people moving to the state to do GOTV are going to stay less than 30 days.
But Pissant...it’s only about voter fraud!!! Our concern should be about some unknown, unnamed person NOT shouting ‘kill him’ at some rally.
"Living in" is often different from "reside in." It's ignorant to believe that out-of-state students who are permitted to register and vote in Ohio DON'T also vote in their home state. If Ohio is permitting out-of-state students to register and vote, then there is a problem folks - either those kids ought to be getting in-state tuition (because they are residents), or they out to be denied in-state voting (because they are not residents).
Almost every state allows college students to vote when they are on campus, even if they are from another state. In-state tuition residency laws are different than voter registration laws.
As far as the state of Ohio, and its laws concerning voter registration, living in is a synonym of residing in.
WRONG! Don't be confused by the fact that the MSM (other than FOX) refuses to cover the story. Daniel Hemel, who voted in Ohio in the NOv. election, but now is in England going to school. Voter fraud.
Ohio revised code:
3503.02 RESIDENCE DETERMINATION RULES C) A PERSON SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED TO HAVE GAINED A RESIDENCE IN ANY COUNTY OF THIS STATE WHICH THE PERSON COMES FOR TEMPORARY PURPOSES ONLY, WITHOUT THE INTENTION OF MAKING SUCH COUNTY THE PERMANENT PLACE OF ABODE.
Under that code, every out-of-state student in the state would be ineligible to vote. As that is NOT the case, its irrelevant.
>>Under that code, every out-of-state student in the state would be ineligible to vote. As that is NOT the case, its irrelevant.<<
No, law is not “irrelevant,” your ACLU-style sophistry notwithstanding. You are telling me that someone who clearly intended to rent a house just before an election to put that address on a voter registration form, who is not a student in Ohio, and does not intend to return to Ohio (for 4 years anyway) is not subject to state law.
Please. These are not students attending a college in Ohio. They are scofflaws.
Not so. The test is an intention to "always" return. IOW, the voter considers that state his or her home, and trips to out-of-state parents or guardian are considered temporary.
May a college student register and vote from his or her school address in Ohio?
Yes, a student may vote using his or her Ohio school residence address. However, the student may not also vote an absentee ballot where he or she last lived (e.g. with one or more parent or guardian). When a college student votes from his or her school address, the school residence is considered to be the place to which the student's habitation is fixed and to which, whenever the student is absent, the student intends to return, and is considered by the student to be his or her permanent residence at the time of voting.Some students who arrive from out-of-state would be ineligible to register to vote, others would be eligible.
Eligibility for in-state tuition turns on different regulations, with residency (domicile) typically being 12 months, with "time as a student" not counting toward residency for in-state tuition eligibility determinations.
Amen.
The “vote squatters” who parachute in shortly before elections and then leave are a threat to our Electoral College system, since many of these “mobile” voters lean leftward, and try to vote in tossup states.
I sure as hell don’t want illegal aliens voting on my property taxes and law enforcement officials either.
So why haven’t they been arrested?
Sounds like they all flew the coup.
Brazen little _____aren’t they. I love the smell of liberal fear :)
Intent is an unmeasurable quality...thats what it boils down to. If you have people who have lived in the state for 30 days, and claim it is their intent to live there after the election, they are eligible to vote. Intent is also subject to reality, and if they “intend” to stay but really end up leaving then there is no legal basis for claiming that they did anything other than take advantage of the system.
Sometimes, but not always, and not entirely. A student who intends to stay in that state could obtain a drivers license; or if working part time, file income tax returns in that state, etc.
Anyway, I agree the system is easily gamed, especially when the evidentiary standards for establishing "residency" are set as low as they presently are. Dishonest students will vote in two states - maybe even more than once in the state they are hanging out in during the election season.
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