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Its About Marriage, Period. (Why Florida Needs To Pass Amendment 2 To Stop Judicial Activism Alert)
Yes2Marriage.com ^ | 10/15/2008 | Terry Kemple

Posted on 10/14/2008 10:06:34 PM PDT by goldstategop

According to the Florida Supreme Court, Amendment 2 does just one thing. It defines marriage as between only one man and one woman into the Florida Constitution.

When an amendment to the Florida Constitution is submitted, it goes through an approval process that finishes with the court deciding whether the proposed amendment deals with only one subject. When Amendment 2 was submitted for review by the court, the American Civil Liberties Union challenged the language. It argued the amendment dealt with more than one subject. When the case was heard, the ACLU attorneys asserted six times that Amendment 2 would not only affect marriage, but that it would also prohibit the recognition of domestic partnerships.

Amendment 2 was allowed to go on the ballot because the court disagreed with the ACLU's position. In its opinion, the court said, "the voter is merely being asked to vote on the singular subject of whether the concept of marriage and the rights and obligations traditionally embodied therein should be limited to the union of one man and one woman."

The opinion went on to say, "Initially, a comparison of the proposed amendment with current law in section 741.212 of the Florida Statutes (the Defense of Marriage Act or DOMA), demonstrates that the amendment essentially tracks the language of the current statutory provision. … The proposed amendment is essentially inserting this statutory scheme into the Constitution."

Legal precedent has already been established in Florida regarding DOMA and domestic partnerships. In Broward County, opponents of domestic partnerships used DOMA as the basis for their suit to outlaw them, saying that DOMA prohibited domestic partnerships. The 4th District Court of Appeal disagreed, ruling that DOMA has no impact on domestic partnerships.

The Supreme Court said Amendment 2 would merely place DOMA in the Constitution. The appeals court said DOMA doesn't affect domestic partnerships. The connection is clear: Amendment 2 won't affect domestic partnerships or any associated benefits.

Opponents of Amendment 2 know they can't win this debate if they simply try to "validate" a need for same-sex marriage. In the first 27 states where marriage amendments appeared on the ballot they passed by resounding margins. Voters naturally recognize that for the benefit of society, and particularly for the welfare of children, marriage should be between one man and one woman.

This realization led them to another strategy. Now, the spokesmen for the groups opposing Amendment 2 won't even acknowledge that it's about marriage, even though the Supreme Court clearly said that marriage is exactly what it is about.

Instead, they are trying to frighten voters, especially senior citizens, into believing that they'll lose benefits if Amendment 2 passes. This is a total fabrication. There is the ruling from the appeals court.

They also say there's no need for Amendment 2 because there are already laws on the books that define marriage as between one man and one woman.

The response to that: Look what just happened in Connecticut, and a couple months ago in California, and a few years ago in Massachusetts. All of these states had laws protecting marriage. That didn't stop radical activist judges from imposing their will on the people of their states.

Our only option to keep those radical judges from imposing their will on the people of Florida is to pass Amendment 2.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008election; aclu; amendment2; conservatism; florida; homosexualagenda; judeochristian; judicialactivism; liberalism; moralabsolutes; protectmarriage; queerlybeloved; samesexmarriage; scofla; terrykemple; traditionalmarriage; traditionalvalues; yes2marriage
Florida needs to pass Amendment 2. The greatest danger to traditional marriage is radical judicial activism. As the experience of a number of states has illustrated, laws are insufficient to protect marriage at the hands of liberal judges who seek to destroy that great institution. The only way to thwart them is to place the recognition of marriage in a state constitution beyond the ability of judges or transient popular majorities, to change.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 10/14/2008 10:06:35 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Can a court rule an amendment unconstitutional? I know it is an oxymoron, but you never know.


2 posted on 10/14/2008 10:16:08 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: goldstategop
My wife works in a Marion County school, so she gets "education material" from the state, county. etc. She also gets mail from the Florida Education Assocation. The latest listed who and what they support/not support. Of course they support B.O., and they are also against Amendment #2.
I emailed them, asking what business it is of theirs to tell people how to vote on Amendment #2, and what does it have to do with education?

This was over a week ago, and I have yet to hear from them . . . .

3 posted on 10/14/2008 10:19:42 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: goldstategop
I support these amendments for state constitutions precisely because it stops the judicial activism that people denied would happen when they opposed the original DOMA.

That being said - once the same-sex marriage issue is resolved nationwide, I hope that states will consider doing something to make divorce less of a 'revolving door' option. This is partially what led to the overall 'cheapening' of marriage that made it so vulnerable to gay activists in the first place, and it needs to be addressed in some fashion.
4 posted on 10/14/2008 10:19:42 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: jeffc
I emailed them, asking what business it is of theirs to tell people how to vote on Amendment #2, and what does it have to do with education?

Well, they'll never admit it, but obviously if they can weaken the family unit, they can strengthen the influence of government teachers. It's a 'job security' measure.
5 posted on 10/14/2008 10:21:27 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: LukeL
You know that is impossible. A state court is bound by the state's highest law - its constitution. And if judicial activism ever reaches the point where judges disregard what is written in it, then we are already living in a nation of men, not a nation of laws.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 10/14/2008 10:21:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: beezdotcom
Yep. The Left wants to eliminate the family and make the state the sole agent responsible for the child's rearing and values. So its not just about "marriage equality." Their agenda is far more radical.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 10/14/2008 10:24:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Well the 9th and 10th amendments might as well be thrown away, the courts have made sure of that.


8 posted on 10/14/2008 10:26:06 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: goldstategop

Correct. Lefties want to destroy the traditional family and usher in the new “parents” for the population: state and government. If Amendment 2 is needed, go for it FL. Don’t end up like MASS. and CA where they have robots who don’t think but do..


9 posted on 10/14/2008 10:46:05 PM PDT by reaganixonbush
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To: LukeL

They did it in California.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 11:11:11 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: goldstategop

I voted here in Florida last week, By mail.
Held my nose and voted McCain.
In regards to this amendment it is written on the ballot in such a way as to be very confusing.
If you do not read it correctly you think you are voting for it when you actually are voting against it.


11 posted on 10/15/2008 3:07:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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