Soccer mom gets concealed-weapon permit back

The Patriot-News ^ | Tuesday October 14, 2008 | MONICA VON DOBENECK

[Sisku Hanne]

"It was legal for Meleanie Hain to openly carry a gun to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game, but that doesn't mean it was right, Lebanon County Judge Robert Eby said today."

[Turret Gunner A20]

Drink less, think more.

Oh, God!!! Another juvenile clown. I don't dring, and you don't have to get snotty because you can't prove you fallacious claim.

[JRandomFreeper]

Ohhhkayyy.... Your position is that God didn't give us the right to defend ourselves. Then where did the right come from? What does Black have to say about it?

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

And Jefferson said “Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who didn’t.”

Smart man. But what has that to do with the topic of this thread?

[JRandomFreeper]

Another juvenile clown

Thank you for the juvenile comment. I just had a birthday. Juvi, I ain't.

I have to find my glasses to find my teeth.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

It's gotta suck to be a liberal these days.

I wouldn't know. But you seem to fit into that category -- the way you like to read things into the Constitution that aren't there.

[Emperor Palpatine]

You are obviously a statist and not a true conservative.

You seem to say that rights are granted by the state instead of being inalienable and granted by God.....as our Founding Fathers believed.

That sounds like some European talking, not an American.

[JRandomFreeper]

But what has that to do with the topic of this thread?

I think the topic of this thread is "Don't cave to the craven barstids that are scared of guns". Palps comment was on-topic, as something to be avoided.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

Ohhhkayyy.... Your position is that God didn't give us the right to defend ourselves. That is not true. Where the hell did you pick up that crap?

If you are going to insist on twisting what I say into some stupid damned lies,, we might just as well drop the whole thing right here.

[JRandomFreeper]

You have to go back a little further to the Declaration of Independence. That's when we told you to bugger off. I think the words were...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

You are obviously a statist and not a true conservative.

Why, do I have to lie and agree with you when you are wrong in order to be a conservative? You seem to say that rights are granted by the state instead of being inalienable and granted by God.....as our Founding Fathers believed.

There you go again -- reading BS into what I have said. I said nothing of the kind. Maybe you had better go back and re-read what I did say before you make a complete fool of yourself. And then maybe we can try that one again. That sounds like some European talking, not an American.

Well, if you're going to make me into a European for telling you the truth, you should at least inform me what new citizenship you are granting me.

[JRandomFreeper]

You said: "I am not stupid enough to claim that ownership as God-given when Iknow it is not." (SIC)

That's where I got the idea that you don't believe that self defense is a God-given right.

No lies, just a quote.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

Whatever.

[JRandomFreeper]

BTW, Sometimes, even established law is not enforceable where there's lots of empty space and good shovels. Google prohibition, or ask some of my relatives what happened to Dudley DoRight. And his horse.

Respect, even for Law, has to be earned. You aren't helping.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

I said: "I am not stupid enough to claim that ownership as God-given when I know it is not."

That's where I got the idea that you don't believe that self defense is a God-given right.

Then are you saying that the fact that I don't go along with the ownership of my guns is not God-given [and believe me, He did not give me a single one of them} then I don't believe the right of self defense is an inalienable, God-given ability and right??

Oranges and Apples.

[JRandomFreeper]

If you don't own the means of protection, you ain't got squat. Ownership of property is also a God-given right.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

You have to go back a little further to the Declaration of Independence. That's when we told you to bugger off. I think the words were...

Gee, I didn't know that fine document was addressed to me!!!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Beautiful, idealistic words -- the introduction to a very well written declaration addressed to King George III of England, telling him to bugger off (not me), And it has ABXSOLUTELY NO FORCE IN LAW. It is not the law of the land -- The Constitution and its Amendments are the Law of the land.

So what has that got to do with the subject of this thread?

[JRandomFreeper]

Because I will enforce them. To my death.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

And the document is addressed to any would-be tyrant. You are just one of the nameless ones.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

Respect, even for Law, has to be earned. You aren't helping.

I gave up "helping" when I gave up my law practice several years ago.

But more to the point, your insistence on maintaing a false polition on the right to own and bear arms, and its source -- and trying to drag God and religion into the equation -- is damned sure not helping anyone to understand what is going on.

[JRandomFreeper]

So where does the right come from? What does Black have to say about that?

/johnny