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To: markomalley

My poor liberal daughter out in Washington [state] believes socialism would be a good thing. She emphasizes that does not mean “communism” but socialism. Our kids sent through the liberal colleges and unversities have been brain-trashed [not brainwashed].


13 posted on 10/14/2008 7:17:20 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: Geist Krieger

Ask her to explain the difference.

Socialism is not possible without the use of force, because, by definition, socialism is replacing each individual’s life goals with some “societal goal”. And it requires force to make someone act against their own goals.


16 posted on 10/14/2008 7:20:08 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Geist Krieger

I went through the liberal public school system in New York and went to a liberal college and I turned out more conservative than ever!!!!! I even earned pretty good grades from my most radical professors, they all seemed to like me. They were just amazed how someone so young was so conservative. I gues this was when we could have a civil discourse with liberals./Just Asking - seoul62......


20 posted on 10/14/2008 7:24:24 AM PDT by seoul62
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To: Geist Krieger
Truth be told, he is not a socialist, he is a communist Trojan Horse. Send her this article about Franklin Marshall Davis, Obama's childhood mentor:

Obama's Red Mentor was a Pervert

Davis, who was investigated by the FBI and various congressional and official inquiries, was a CPUSA member. In fact, as AIM has documented, Davis was involved in the CPUSA or its front activities, before, during and after World War II, and became a member of a secret communist apparatus in the 1950s after the CPUSA in Hawaii was reorganized on an underground basis.

AIM had confirmed that Obama’s white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, picked Davis because Obama’s black father had abandoned the family and Dunham thought Obama needed a black father-figure. AIM also confirmed that Davis was Obama’s mentor during the critical years 1975-1979.

Harnden claimed in a preceding article that Obama was introduced to Davis in 1970 when he was only nine years old. This would mean that Davis was an influence over Obama for about nine full years, until Obama was 18 and went off to college.

Harnden quotes Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a friend of Davis’s, as saying that Stanley Dunham brought Obama to meet Davis in the autumn of 1970. She “was chatting with him [Davis] that late autumn afternoon as Dunham and Barry [Obama] approached,” Harnden reports.

Harnden also reports that Davis and Dunham smoked marijuana together. Dawna Weatherly-Williams said that “Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together,” the paper said. Obama, of course, also admits that he used marijuana and cocaine in his youth.

Citing passages from Obama’s own book, Dreams From My Father, which was published in 1995, Harnden demonstrates how Obama went to “Frank” for advice about racial issues, college, and other matters at critical periods in his life. Clearly, the relationship between them, as concluded by many observers, was strong.


41 posted on 10/14/2008 8:14:41 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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