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IBD Editorials: A Socialist Tsunami?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 10, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 10/13/2008 12:30:18 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

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To: B-Cause

As a Protestant, I really enjoyed that video.

I know the organization behind it is not the Catholic church, unfortunately.

However, I agree with the group who put it together.


21 posted on 10/13/2008 1:07:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The LA Times, 10/6/08, was told to cut "75 editorial positions." How many are needed for 2 pages?)
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To: 2banana

Nah, when the time comes, there is no way the voting/tax paying public is going to support 80% tax rates to subsidize seniors and poor people. The politicians will delay the inevitable for as long as they can, but in the end, congress will vote (in some way shape or form) to abbrogate the promises made to the entitlement recipients. It just won’t work over the long term in a global, hypercompetitive economy.


22 posted on 10/13/2008 1:13:27 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: cayuga

True, but the actual takeover by the Bolsheviks (5% or less of the population) prior to the civil war was quite easy


23 posted on 10/13/2008 1:13:45 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Everybody put your hands out...


24 posted on 10/13/2008 1:54:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Note to IBD: The Big Socialism happened since September 1st.


25 posted on 10/13/2008 2:01:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bushonomics: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses......."PAULSON'S THEFT")
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To: cayuga

Correct, Russia didn’t go Communist w/o a civil war. And I’ve never thought we’d be this close. The culture war being waged by both sides is sick - but I defend that the liberal progressives fired the first shot. They’re screaming racism on us and their white liberal members are calling conservatives racists and screaming how stupid we all are. Red states v. blue states.


26 posted on 10/13/2008 2:09:38 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising
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To: B-Cause

Breathtaking video! I sent it to my address book. May the Lord soften their hearts and give them eyes to see.


27 posted on 10/13/2008 2:25:57 PM PDT by Shelayne (Gloves off, heels on, lipstick check-- Giddy up!)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

Your suggestion that you will leave for a new land of opportunity actually brings on a sad perspective on the future. For centuries, The US has been the shining light that the oppressed and poor but hopeful and hard working would look to as inspiration for the dream of a better life. Without the US, and the US has been under a darkening cloud of restrictions and increasing loss of opportunities for some time now, there will be no reason for hope. There will be no place to look to and say, “In America, I can be free and chase my dreams. In America, I will one day make a new life and free my family to live better lives than I could live.”

With freedom only a word and our once-cherished rights subject to the whim of whomever, where will hope be? The rule of law is becoming the ruler’s law. The dearest riches of American culture are popularly derided and spoken of only in jest.

Where will inspiration come from? Where will you look for a better life? Make a stand here. Make it now.


28 posted on 10/13/2008 2:37:43 PM PDT by iacovatx (If tyou must lie to recruit to your cause, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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To: iacovatx

I’m making a stand. Unfortunately, I do not see reason to have much faith in my fellow citizens to do the same.

Ultimately, America’s success has bred complacency in its people. Our freedom has enabled an insidious scourge to take hold and corrupt the very meaning of freedom, as well as to confuse the clarity of our Constitution. A large number of American people are ever willing to give up their freedom for handouts. They are morons, and dare I say they will deserve what they receive in return.


29 posted on 10/13/2008 2:51:50 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

If 0bama wins, America has lost its way.


30 posted on 10/13/2008 3:07:37 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Harry Wurzbach

Venerable theories of human psychology and behavior are consistent with your argument. If you satisfy the wants of someone, they have little motivation to pursue something more. Similarly, they have little motivation to defend the loss os something that isn’t an active need at that moment.

A lot of motivation for the masses comes from dislike for people not like them. Hence, politicians tell them it is the “wealthy” whom they will punish and they, the little people, will be given presents. The little people don’t notice that the politician is wealthy and is supported by very wealthy people who in reality want to acquire power and see the little people’s envy and shallow interpretations of the world as an opportunity.

Unfortunately, I think it is not so much “they” who will reap the pain of their indifference. It will be borne by those of us who have worked hard to build something of our lives. For example, take Cuba after 1959—those who were successful were driven out and saw their property confiscated. The little people became “littler” and have never recovered. Take China during the Cultural Revolution—the learned (most highly respected in the Chinese culture) were brought down to the level of laborers, or worse. The same for Cambodia under the Red Guard. Look to Russia after 1917, and look at the erasure of accomplishment and industriousness. Socialism has always pressed down on the best and soaked the masses in misery. Always. Can you name an example of socialism raising up the people? I cannot.

My question is, “How hard will a socialist government press down on the achievers and individualists to achieve a homogenous socialist society? Does socialism always result in violence to the people? Are threats enough? Will property confiscation through higher taxes and reduced control over personal property be enough? Will squelching of voices of freedom or differences of opinion be enough? All of these things seem inherent in socialist practice. Do you think these things will greet us in the new socialist society. We are already starting to see the first attempts.


31 posted on 10/13/2008 3:09:32 PM PDT by iacovatx (If tyou must lie to recruit to your cause, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

Australia looks pretty good.


32 posted on 10/13/2008 3:28:55 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: sam_paine
Nobel laureates in economics is not really a plus...but anyone got a link?

Yeah, it's the link that says "read more" in the article excerpt at the top of this page.

But don't take our word for it. One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting just that:
"The prospect of such tax-rate increases in 2010 is already a drag on the economy," they wrote, noting that the potential of higher taxes in the next year or two is reducing hiring and investment. It was "misguided tax hikes and protectionism, enacted when the U.S. economy was weak in the early 1930s," the economists remind us, that "greatly increased the severity of the Great Depression."
We can't afford to repeat these grave errors. Yet much of the electorate is determined to vote for the candidate most likely to make them. If he wins, what we consider to be a crisis in today's economy will be a routine affair in tomorrow's.

33 posted on 10/13/2008 3:35:55 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: B-Cause
That had me on tears.

True and powerful, may the Lord have mercy on us.

34 posted on 10/13/2008 3:36:19 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Harry Wurzbach

“I’m an American, but if America is killed by the lefties, then it’s off to that new land of opportunity. After all, our forebears once left their homelands in search of an opportunity to pursue their dreams”

Your point is well-taken, but...

Serious question follows:
What if they won’t let you leave?

Paging Kira (from Ayn Rand’s “We The Living”) to the red-flagged courtesy phone....

- John


35 posted on 10/13/2008 3:45:13 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: cayuga

“When you compare here and now with 1917 Russia, don’t forget that Russia didn’t go Communist without a Civil War”

Yet, it seems that in 2008, a majority of Americans seem willing to go that same way without firing a shot....

Look how far we have come!

- John


36 posted on 10/13/2008 3:50:31 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: St. Louis Conservative

BTTT!


37 posted on 10/13/2008 4:58:23 PM PDT by Pagey (Sarah Palin has Mayoral AND Governors' Experience---B. Hussein Obama has NEITHER!!!!! LOLOL)
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To: Pagey

Bump


38 posted on 10/13/2008 5:44:20 PM PDT by JEH_Boston (There's a landslide coming.....)
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To: Thombo2

Show them this video. It probably won’t help though.

1985 interview with a Soviet defector
http://www.poorschmuck.net/wordpress/?p=6306


39 posted on 10/13/2008 5:48:58 PM PDT by listenhillary (Should we turn Alaska or Texas into our Galt's Gulch?)
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