Posted on 10/12/2008 5:56:50 PM PDT by dascallie
From Freeper philly ray:
Several things. It is alleged that Ed Hale, an avid Hillary supporter, has confirmed that he has in his possession a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama. This was reported by several posts I have read. Ed Hale's site and his radio station have been removed and it is stated that they were shut down for security reasons. Another posting I came across alleges that Phil Berg would neither confirm nor deny the report and that everything is being kept hushed for security reasons and that Phil Berg will not respond unitl he has had the opportunity to produce such in a hearing.
If the above is true, questions will swirl around the authenticity. I would presume it true, false birth documents will crop up as alleged proof Obama was born in Hawaii and alleged witnesses will be made avaialbe.
The law suit provides little by way of sound evidence except for the alleged dcoument from the Jakarta school. If that document is real, then other questions are raised as to whether Obama is a natural born citizen or a naturlaized citizen , the former making him elligible for Presidency, the latter would not. The arguments in the pleadings and in the last answer provided by Plaitiff Berg are very interesting in that they name a place for the birth. And, it is alleged the hospital name is known.
So there are actually two issues or avenue of attacks: 1. Obama was not born in the States and despite his mother being a citizen, she did not meet the rules for her child to be a citizen; and 2.) He lost natural born citizen status by virtue of the Indonesion citizenship, dual citizenship was not allowable due to the Hague convention rules and then there is no ability to become a natural born citizen thereafter, rather ownly a naturalized citizen.
Finally, Obama stated when applying for the Illinois bar that he never had any aliases. And he indicated publicly that he never was a muslim and never practiced such or studied such. If the Indonesion document is correct, then he lied on his bar application and he lied about his religion which would raise serious questions as to why. My gut is there is something here or Obama would have simply provided what was necessary. As an attorney, I cannot see any benefit from stonewalling, hiding behind legal maneuvering and why it is that he would not want to simply be transparent and end the controversy with the required documentation to prove thaht he meets the requirements to be President of the United States.
336 posted on October 12, 2008 8:49:54 PM EDT by philly ray [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
No sustain to it. All bark, little bite.
I think it is the naturalized vs natural born citizen Berg discussed. He had to be a citizen in Indonesia to attend school there. That country did not allow for dual citizenship and it is doubtful he came back through immigration when he returned to Hawaii. Although technical that would classify him a NATURALIZED NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
“(That presumes that they can, of course.)”???? You mean “That presumes that they WANT to.” They can do pretty much anything they want.......presuming they want to. As we have seen in another post, if you can throw a grandfather in jail for not having a green lawn, you can surely make a ruling on whether a person is a citizen or not.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you!
Senators don't have to fill it out. Neither do state senators/representatives. So, in effect, he's never been officially asked.
On a break today I went out to listen to Neal Boortz say ‘you people are nuts for following this: it will go absolutely nowhere’.
I mean, define nuts. He spoke exactly like people saying ‘concentrate on the issues’ - Bill Clinton himself broached the eligibility issue, why not republicans?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/
Glenn Greenwald
Wednesday Sept. 24, 2008 12:26 EDT
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the “Homeland”?
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