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Can there be common ground on abortion?
The Waltonian ^
| 10/2/08
| Campolo, Tony
Posted on 10/10/2008 3:29:49 PM PDT by HaplessToad
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To: HaplessToad
Appears to me that he deserves some credit for taking the Democratic Party a step in the right direction.
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posted on
10/10/2008 3:47:45 PM PDT
by
kanawa
(http://www.canadalovessarah.ca/)
To: HaplessToad
You want to compromise with the planned (first degree)
murder of the most helpless?
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posted on
10/10/2008 3:48:08 PM PDT
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
To: HaplessToad
Weep and pray Yes, and we do but let me interject a bit of light in this darkness. Sarah Palin's photo of her holding baby Trig on stage (you know the one) has set the standard and has made a "statement" that absolutely shouts out that unconditional love, courage and FAITH is the standard.
She has set this country on its ear, God bless Sarah Palin and the women like her who have not had the same forum and are not visible but certainly have the same strengths and besides, God sees them and KNOWS them...
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posted on
10/10/2008 3:51:29 PM PDT
by
brushcop
(We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
To: jessduntno
Democratic Platform Promises More Abortion Overseas/Republican Rejects Pro-Abortion UN Treaties
http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/04/114070/
The platforms of the two major American parties show a stark difference in how each presidential candidate would approach United Nations (UN) issues. The Republican platform explicitly rejects various UN treaties while the Democratic platform makes clear its support for the agenda of wider access to abortion and a strengthening of the UN system of enforcing abortion rights.
The Republican platform rejects by name two UN treaties that have been used by UN Committees, UN agencies and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to promote abortion the UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and supports the continued defunding of groups overseas that promote or perform abortions.
Specifically the GOP platform says, Because the UN has no mandate to promote radical social engineering, any effort to address global social problems must respect the fundamental institutions of marriage and family. We assert the rights of families in all international programs and will not fund organizations involved in abortion. We strongly support the long-held policy of the Republican Party known as the Mexico City policy, which prohibits federal monies from being given to non-governmental organizations that provide abortions or actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other countries. We reject any treaty or agreement that would violate those values. That includes the UN convention on womens rights, signed in the last months of the Carter Administration, and the UN convention on the rights of the child.
This is the first time the Republican platform has specifically rejected these treaties and is likely a reflection of the increasingly radical rulings of the committees empowered to monitor state compliance with them. CEDAW has been used repeatedly by its committee to promote abortion.
The Democratic platform does not explicitly support either treaty but, according to the National Organization for Women, Democratic nominee Barack Obama supports United States (US) ratification of the CEDAW treaty, as does vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden. The platform explicitly supports the ideas contained in these treaties and resurrects a slogan used by Hilary Clinton at the Beijing Womens Conference, Human rights are womens rights and womens rights are human rights. This was a rallying cry for abortion at the Beijing conference in 1995.
The platform states We must make the United Nations human rights organs more effective, energetic, and effective. Critics charge that the human rights bodies at the UN are already too energetic and even aggressive in promoting a left-wing social agenda. Critics further charge that these human rights bodies undermine international law by ceding power from sovereign states to bodies made up largely of NGO representatives.
The Democratic platform also promises to begin funding pro-abortion groups overseas by overturning long-standing US policy against it. The platform also promises that the Democratic president would return to funding the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) which the US Government defunded because of the agencys links to Chinas coercive one-child policy.
This article is courtesy the “Friday Fax” of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute (C-FAM).
To: HaplessToad
Consider these questions: If ten children are drowning in a swimming pool and you can only save six of them, should you save the six? Or should you wait until help arrives that can save them all, even if you know that the six you could save will be lost in the meantime?Consider this proposition: Domestic violence should be legal because it is a private matter between the man, woman and God.
The logic of abortion is so warped.
This guy did such a bang up job about promoting the supposed plank reducing abortions that we haven't heard anything about it from the O man himself. GREAT JOB!
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posted on
10/10/2008 3:53:43 PM PDT
by
frogjerk
(The MSM suffers from premature election)
To: HaplessToad
Consider these questions: If ten children are drowning in a swimming pool and you can only save six of them, should you save the six? Or should you wait until help arrives that can save them all, even if you know that the six you could save will be lost in the meantime?That insults my intelligence.
Situational ethics is for the weak minded and weak of spine.
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posted on
10/10/2008 3:59:49 PM PDT
by
Popman
(Dont worry Barney Frank has your ass-ets covered!!!)
To: HaplessToad
There is no middle ground on abortion.
Murder is murder.
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posted on
10/10/2008 6:21:23 PM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
To: jessduntno
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posted on
10/10/2008 6:23:50 PM PDT
by
mrcasual
(Liberalism is a fancy word for 'mentally ill'.)
To: HaplessToad
Red = blood
No middle ground.
Abortion is murder.
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posted on
10/10/2008 10:50:58 PM PDT
by
Salvation
( †With God all things are possible.†)
To: HaplessToad
Any Catholic who supports the dimocrat ticket by voting for any dimocrat at all is supporting abortion and thereby excommunicating themselves from the Catholic Church. Here's what 26 out of 56 bishops say:
Updated: American Bishops who have spoken against Pelosi
Here is the complete list of American bishops who have responded to Nancy Pelosi's comments so far:
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... Bishop James Conley, his auxiliary, joined him
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... Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine, joined him
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Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh and...
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... Bishop Oscar Cantu, his auxiliary bishop, has joined him
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Cardinal
Francis George of Chicago, President of the US Bishops,
has weighed-in
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{Last updated on September 10th.}
Notes:
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Previous #23 has been removed. Bishop Joseph Gossman of Raleigh, NC is actually the bishop emeritus, and the new bishop, Michael Burbidge has not, to my knowledge, made a personal statement.
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Previous #16 has also been removed, it was an erroneous duplication of current #13.
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#26 was added September 10th, although he published his column September 6th
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posted on
10/10/2008 10:52:56 PM PDT
by
Salvation
( †With God all things are possible.†)
To: HaplessToad
Uh, no go Tony. This concept of “not abandoning the baby and mother after birth” is NOT a “Christian” idea it is a SOCIALIST idea.
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