California ISO worries battery powered cars may strain grid

Platts ^ | 9Oct2008 | Platts

[ThomasThomas]

Much of California eccentricity problem is peek demand. The biggest seasonal change is air conditioners. California produces enough eccentricity for it’s own needs when it is not hot. The is one area solar eccentricity might work. There is an alignment of solar eccentricity efficacy and it being hot outside. While many deride the fool hearted stupidity of the nutty wacko leftist moonbat, birkenstock makes great sandals and given the rational genesis of conservatives many alternative green sources of eccentricity can be made profitable and turned in electricity.

[calex59]

I understand Nancy Pukeosi wants to solve the Natural Gas problem by mandating that people eat beans every day and then fart into containers, later taking these containers to a Methane recovery station. (I hope Nancy isn’t reading this and jumps on the idea)

[Not_Who_U_Think]

I’m not an expert but from what I have read recharging an electric car isn’t like recharging your shaver. It requires some serious amps and I believe it takes a 220v line with a power conditioner. In order to pack this kind of power into a battery it takes a lot of juice.

[NathanR]

And they are just noticing this now?!?

[GOPJ]

There’s no free lunch...

[shove_it]

Our newest nuclear reactor started up in 1996. It took 23 years to get it started. The number of generating units has declined from 109 in 1994 to 104 in 2004.

Source: http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/nuc_reactors/reactsum.html

32 units have been shut down over the past 40 odd years and eight units have been stopped during construction.

Source: http://www.animatedsoftware.com/environm/no_nukes/nukelist1.htm#PR

Nuke power, while very desirable from a rational viewpoint, faces massive NIMBY/GREENIE/POLITICAL obstacles. It will be tough to just keep up with deteriorating units needing replacement.

[jonrick46]

Growing our own algae oil, of course.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! HA!!!!!!!

What IS a lib to do? :)

[SunkenCiv]

The California Independent System Operator said Thursday it is eyeing an expected influx of thousands of plug-in electric cars in the state by the year 2012 that could pose a challenge to its grid's power flows unless the cars are developed to charge only at night.

okay, and we'll file that one in the same drawer as, "NASA to land on the Sun at night".

• Chrysler: Half of all cars electric by 2020

  09/30/2008 10:35:32 AM PDT · by shove_it · 27 replies · 362+ views

  autobloggreen | 9/29/2008 | Jeremy Korzeniewski

  We've taken a good look at each of the three electric vehicle concepts that Chrysler took the wraps off of last week, plus one extra for good measure. For various reasons, none of these vehicles really seems quite ready for prime time - one is based on a Lotus sportscar chassis, two require huge battery packs and the last is limited to 25 miles per hour. Tough bring those to market. Still, Chrysler says it plans to launch one of them by 2010 in the U.S. with European delivery scheduled a bit later. We'll see. If that does happen, Chrysler's...
  
  

• Tesla to build luxury US$60,000 four seater luxury EV (Electric Vehicle)

  09/27/2008 10:23:17 AM PDT · by Reaganesque · 20 replies · 575+ views

  Gizmag.com | 09/27/08 | Gizmag.com

  September 27, 2008 The Tesla Brand of luxury electric vehicles is certainly capturing a lot of the limelight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight as the era of the EV dawns. The company has announced a state-of-the-art US$250(sic) assembly facility in the heart of Silicon Valley Silicon Valley . The facility will build a new US$60,000 five-passenger luxury sedan with exceptional perfroamnce and a lithium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium -ion battery pack capable of delivering 240 miles per charge. The first sedans are likely to roll off the assembly line in late 2010. The new plant will be able to produce at least 15,000 sedans - up to...
  
  

• World's fastest production car to go electric - with "several years between charging"

  09/26/2008 9:04:23 PM PDT · by Reaganesque · 28 replies · 801+ views

  Gizmag.com | 09/24/08 | Gizmag.com

  September 24, 2008 Last week saw the one year anniversary of SSC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scleroderma 's Ulimate Aero http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AERO becoming the fastest production car in the world at 256.18 mph, pushing past marks set by Koenigsegg's CCR and Bugatti's Veyron. It's the first time the top speed record has stood for a whole year since McLaren's F1 held it for seven years with 386.4 kmh (240.1mph). Now comes news that an Ultimate Aero EV (Electric Vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle ) is in development. A 500 bhp EV is planned for late 2009 and a 1000 bhp 4WD EV is also under consideration. Now here's...
  
  

• Electric shock

  09/26/2008 7:46:15 AM PDT · by rellimpank · 2 replies · 235+ views

  Rocky Mountain News | 26 sept 08 | Vincent Carroll

  In the past few days, Americans learned how important functioning credit markets are to the health of the economy. In the next few years they will learn how important an adequate electricity system is as well. It will be a similarly unpleasant revelation. Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden's rejection of coal plants during a campaign stop in Ohio this week - the bumbling Biden even claimed, erroneously, that the Obama ticket was "not supporting clean coal" - is being treated as a gaffe. But it wasn't, really. Biden's attitude precisely reflects a growing consensus among politicians on the environmental...