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Tesla to build luxury US$60,000 four seater luxury EV (Electric Vehicle)
Gizmag.com ^ | 09/27/08 | Gizmag.com

Posted on 09/27/2008 10:23:17 AM PDT by Reaganesque

September 27, 2008 The Tesla Brand of luxury electric vehicles is certainly capturing a lot of the limelight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight as the era of the EV dawns. The company has announced a state-of-the-art US$250(sic) assembly facility in the heart of Silicon Valley Silicon Valley . The facility will build a new US$60,000 five-passenger luxury sedan with exceptional perfroamnce and a lithium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium -ion battery pack capable of delivering 240 miles per charge. The first sedans are likely to roll off the assembly line in late 2010.

The new plant will be able to produce at least 15,000 sedans – up to 30,000 with the addition of a second shift. About half of the production vehicles will be slated for sale in Europe. Tesla has not yet started taking deposits on the Model S, but executives anticipate extremely strong demand in the EU and USA.

In mid-September Tesla ramped up production of the Roadster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadster , which is produced in collaboration with Lotus Group at Tesla UK in Hethel. About 10 Roadsters start down the assembly line each week, and that number will increase to about 40 per week in early 2009. About 1,200 customers have put down deposits on the Roadster, and Tesla will begin shipping to customers in Europe starting in May.

About Tesla Motors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Motors

Incorporated in 2003 in California’s Silicon Valley, Tesla Motors Inc. develops and manufactures electric vehicles with exceptional design, performance and efficiency, while conforming to all US and EU safety, environmental and durability standards. The Roadster is a zero-emission, all-electric two-seater for sale now in the United States and Europe. With a 0-to-60 mph acceleration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration of 3.9 seconds, a 14,000 rpm redline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline , and the fastest top-gear acceleration of any production car tested by Car & Driver magazine last year, the Roadster is unique in providing super car performance, zero emissions and extraordinary efficiency.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: automakers; car; electric; energy; sedan; tesla; transportation
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I'm pretty sure the $250 manufacturing plant costs a bit more than that. So much for editorial oversight at Gizmag. Anyway, the first steps are being taken. This is certainly promising but, we'll just have to wait and see if this technology is a good as it sounds. Still, its better than the golf-cart with delusions of grandeur Chevy Volt and its certainly better than allowing the government to mandate such cars. The market is way ahead of them. Here's hoping for the best!
1 posted on 09/27/2008 10:23:18 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

The only thing this stupid company mass produces is Press Releases and fundraising BS.


2 posted on 09/27/2008 10:29:54 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Completely agree

The man who funded this (founded PayPal) also is funding a solar company in the area that is totally full of themselves and doesnt care a WHIT about the clients

They are all press releases and BS


3 posted on 09/27/2008 10:38:13 AM PDT by kauaiboy (a fool and his money are soon parted)
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To: sam_paine
The only thing this stupid company mass produces is Press Releases and fundraising BS.

If this company gets liberal ninnies to part from their money then I think this company has merit.

4 posted on 09/27/2008 10:41:40 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Reaganesque

The car will burn real pretty when all those lithium ion batteries catch fire.


5 posted on 09/27/2008 10:44:58 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

Seat belt on-check
turn key to on-check
Pooof


6 posted on 09/27/2008 10:52:22 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: sam_paine; kauaiboy

Wow. Ebenezer Scrooge lives! BAH-HUMBUG!! Have some confidence in free markets, gentlemen. As history has shown, it can, and has on innumerable occasions, create miracles. Every breakthrough that has ever been made has faced such quick and dismissive condemnation from somebody. Your derision is a time honored tradition and about as valuable as those who opined that airplanes would never fly and that “you’ll sail right off the edge of the world!” So, save the harrumphing and give it half a chance. No one truly knows where the next breakthrough will come from so, why not Tesla? Jeez.


7 posted on 09/27/2008 10:54:48 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: sam_paine

Interestingly, even the venerable Motor Trend goes along with the hoopla just so they can get a test ride.

Read this report from August and pay attention to the writer’s last paragraph on the battery pack.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/alternative/112_0803_2008_tesla_roadster/index.html


8 posted on 09/27/2008 11:10:24 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: beethovenfan

The battery pack is supposedly water-cooled to prevent overheating but with 6,831 individual D cells they need to be wired in series/parallel for operable voltages below 400V; their volume must be about two cubic feet in any case and their weight likely to be >500 pounds; do you want to try troubleshooting a single open or shorted cell?

Reportedly these batteries are available for around $20,000 or $3.00 per cell.


9 posted on 09/27/2008 11:20:53 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Reaganesque

The keeper of the Universal Laws is not easily amused.


10 posted on 09/27/2008 11:22:15 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Reaganesque; kauaiboy
Because these charlatans have been putting out the same, identical press releases for years.

Not cars. Build the product and sell it and let it speak for itself. That is what American engineering is.

A scaled up electric RC racer is fine, and obviously technologically an interesting toy. Maybe it's even a development vehicle. Great! So do it and shut up with the frikkin press releases.

What is wrong is parading as a technical innovator when you're primarily working at hyping investments in a marketing PR group.

Besides, these are big-boy, boutique toys. 10 a week? 500 units a year after YEARS of hype? BFD.

The Volt is at least an attempt constrained to building a SERIAL HYBRID that can be mass produced and actually DO SOMETHING to get REAL SOLUTIONS into the real world....not pampered collectors' showroom floors.

It's the difference between hard, real engineering vs. toys and tinkering.

11 posted on 09/27/2008 11:24:49 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: beethovenfan
The car will burn real pretty when all those lithium ion batteries catch fire.You will need that heat from burning batteries in winter as there is no way a battery can both propel a car and provide the proper amount of heat to warm up people in the car and to remove the steam coming from the peoples breath, and coffee cups.

And in the hot, humid summers, NO way a battery car can propel the car and still have enough electricity for air conditioner, AND the fan to blow the cold air all around, and still have power for headlights, GPS,stereo, T.V. /entertainment center, windshield wipers,etc.etc.

12 posted on 09/27/2008 11:39:15 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Old Professer; Reaganesque

Thanks for the link. Here’s another one for y’all.

http://teslafounders.wordpress.com/

I had no idea so many of the founders of Tesla had been fired. Apparently to make room for the press release writers.


13 posted on 09/27/2008 11:42:58 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: timestax; beethovenfan; Reaganesque; Old_Professor

According to the specs, recharge time is 3.5hrs with 220@70A.

That’s about 50kWh. 70hp for an hour?

So how many 0-60mph in 3.9s tire burners is that?

Even the EV-1 had an optional generator trailer to bring along! =D


14 posted on 09/27/2008 11:50:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Reaganesque

Why would anyone want to burn piles of money for a tiny cost savings per mile, and then be stranded if you run out of charge in a rural area?


15 posted on 09/27/2008 12:11:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: sam_paine
"Even the EV-1 had an optional generator trailer to bring along!"

A 'hillbilly hybred.'

16 posted on 09/27/2008 12:11:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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"Why would anyone want to burn piles of money for a tiny cost savings per mile, and then be stranded if you run out of charge in a rural area?"

One could ask a similar question of any other 'brilliant' idea from the left. None of it makes any sense.

17 posted on 09/27/2008 12:14:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: Reaganesque

A solution without a problem; what a dilemma!

Good way for rich retards to spend their money.


18 posted on 09/27/2008 12:17:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: sam_paine

And your expertise comes from where?


19 posted on 09/27/2008 12:56:44 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

Reaganesque: “And your expertise comes from where?”

Certainly.

20+years of actual electrical engineering, building real products for real everyday customers.

For example, every laptop built since about ‘96 has a small part of logic designed by me and two other guys in it from a big company back then. Tiny part. Just one small part of millions of contributions to computer architecture over the years.

I’m just like thousands of other engineers whose effort over time gets snowballed together in the REAL products that quietly bubble into ubiquity.

Engineering and technology does not progress via press releases, it is the REAL application of scientific theory to everyday problems.

Be it civil or architectural or mechanical or electrical, engineers all share this common understanding of how easy it is to make something work in a controlled environment, and how hard it is to make things work on a massive scale, reliably in everyday life.

Tesla is not inventing anything. There’s no new battery or powertrain or power science.

The world’s challenge for the past 100 years has been to *engineer* electric cars into reliable, efficient—ubiquitous—transportation. Anyone can build a flaky, unreliable boutique electric car!

It’s lots of time in the lab developing a new implementation of the theory, doing failure analysis, and predicting how to fix something or prevent it from breaking next time.

As much as I’ve read about this particular company going all-out to develop a fancy Lotus based sexy body to sell cars without spending the required resources on solving real problems in the drivetrain repulses me.

I can tell that you have your heart in the right place and I respect that you are eager to see technology move forward. I just wish people like you would focus that fervor on real companies doing real work, not a marketing facade like Tesla.

What GM is trying to do with the Volt is a lot harder than what Tesla claims they want to do if they ever actually do any of it. And the Volt has a HVAC system that works. =)


20 posted on 09/27/2008 1:37:03 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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