Heck, 32 new reactors are all ready in the approval process.
Posted on 10/10/2008 6:21:18 AM PDT by thackney
The California Independent System Operator said Thursday it is eyeing an expected influx of thousands of plug-in electric cars in the state by the year 2012 that could pose a challenge to its grid's power flows unless the cars are developed to charge only at night.
The ISO met with researchers from the University of California-Davis on Wednesday, who are studying plug-in cars, to get a handle on what sort of impact plug-in cars will have on the grid in coming years.
"We really don't know yet," what the impact will be, and the university researchers were not able to shed much light, ISO spokesman Gregg Fishman said.
"We know we will need new power plants by 2012 to meet load growth and because of the retirement of old units, but we shouldn't need more new power plants" just to handle demand from plug-in vehicles, "if they are equipped with the right technology so they charge off peak," Fishman said.
"We did learn that 2012 is the first year the manufacturers and dealers will be really geared up to sell them retail. How popular they will be remains to be seen, and will probably have a lot to do with where [gasoline] prices go between now and then," he said.
Individually, plug-in cars do not drain a lot of power, but having a few hundred thousand of them all plugged in at once will impact the grid, Fishman said.
"It's hard to get more specific than that, because there are a lot of design elements still up in the air, including how big the batteries should be, how long should they take to charge and how much drive time do they need to provide," he said.
CA has had Brownouts...
and Grayouts...
Now for the blackouts
LOL
California’s attitude toward developing its own supply of eneregy comes back to bite them.
That’s OK, we can plug them into the windmills.
California has set aside, thanks to Sen Difi - 10 million acres for the turtle yet nothing for human beings. A judge ordered half the water restricted to humans here due to concerns for a silly fish.
We have a huge problem here, an inept governor, Arnold the fool, a corrupt congress, no republican or opposition party, and stupid voters. Nothing good can come from this scenario.
So build some nuclear plants already.
Jeeze, they just now figured out that electric cars need to be charged with ELECTRICITY? Quick, form a multi-million dollar multi-year committee to figure out what to do. (Hint, hint, build nuke plants, ignore envirofacists.)
Another hint, sometime in the future they will be dealing with dead batteries. Any bets at what point they discover that there is a problem?
Well, duh. Thats a problem for the whole nation.
Not to worry. The plug-in electric cars will have propellers on top, so when there is a blackout, you push the car out in front of your house (if you know how to open your garage door without power), and hope a wind comes along to turn the propeller which will very very slowly charge the battery. “If no wind, blow on propeller”, says one of the hundreds of warning labels.
Hope you’re not in a hurry to get anywhere. But hey, if there’s a blackout, there will be nothing to do when you get there anyway.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6815849
Stibine/arsine emissions from lead-acid batteries
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6815849
John McCain’s plan to build 45 domestic nuclear power plants by 2030 sounds aggressive. The fact is that by 2030, about 45 nuclear power plants will have reached their end-of-life (assuming that they are granted a 20 year extension to their 40 year operating license).
John McCain’s plan only maintains the status quo. It doesn’t account for growth or new demands.
If electric cars somehow become feasible (or are mandated), we are going to need 150 new domestic nuclear power plants by 2030 to keep up with replacement, new growth and the automotive load.
Needless to say, Obama’s lack of vision on nuclear power is simply irresponsible.
Don’t say that or else. In ten years power will be growing on trees according to Obie.
Heck, 32 new reactors are all ready in the approval process.
We could import rickshaws from Japan.
Never mind, too much PC garbage to deal with.
That about sums up the entire envirowacko position.
Or the solar panels...
That’s impossible! They don’t use gas!
DUH!
Can we divide the country and put all the liberals and stupid do gooders in one half and rest of us in the other?
The problem is the 10 years it takes to get approved and the other burdens government puts on construction and use.
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