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Something's Bothering Me About Obama Talking About His Dying Mother & Her Health Insurance Problems
Hillary Clinton Forum ^ | 10-8-08 | Sandy in PA

Posted on 10/10/2008 6:14:51 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative

From Sandy in PA: obama said last night that his mother spent the last months of her life (when she was dying of cancer) lying in a hospital bed "fighting with the insurance company".

What's bothering me about this is:

a) That he is using his mother's death for political gain (but I'm not surprised) and I'm suspicious that he's lying anyway.

b) What kind of son or daughter allows their sick and dying mother to have to deal with the insurance company crap? I think a lot of us can attest to stepping in and dealing with the insurance company when our parents, grandparents or relative were too sick to do it.

c) Did he not previously say that he regretted not spending more time with his mother before she died? So if he wasn't there, how does he know she was lying there fighting the insurance company?

You know, I would not normally question someone who says this sort of thing, because I know people have problems with their insurance companies, and so have I. But coming from him, its not only questionable, but I resent that he uses it for political gain, and if its true, what kind of son lets their sick mother deal with that kind of thing?

OK, sorry for the rant, but I just find this too disgusting and he just said it again in his campaign speech in Indiana today, of course to loud cheers from the crowd. It just makes me sick. I hope my comments haven't offended anyone. I just had to get this out.


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To: Nathan Zachary

Name a communist Islamic state, now or in the past.


101 posted on 10/10/2008 8:02:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Mila
I thought his grandfather was a furniture salesman.

Yes he was, and his grandmother was a bank vice-president.

Barack 0bomba with his maternal grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham during a 1982 visit to New York, where Obama was attending Columbia.

102 posted on 10/10/2008 8:07:34 AM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Clinton was dumped by his father, step father. His mom was all over the place.

Maybe it’s nothing, eh?


103 posted on 10/10/2008 8:25:49 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: realcleanguy
Oh, yeah.

Obama is a very typical communist who uses emotion (his "dying mother") to get into office.

He will punish Americans with higher taxes to finance medical support for people who don't have the money for it. If you dare refuse to pay your absurd taxes, Obama's IRS agents will ruin your life and/or imprison you.

I get it.

I see right through that little Stalinist POS.

104 posted on 10/10/2008 8:29:29 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Of the institutions divinely established as a blessing for believers and unbelievers alike, (namely: free will, marriage, family, and national governance), each demand respect for legitimate authority within those institutions.

Obama ignores the role of responsible ethics in volition, marriage, and family regarding their role in caring for his mother, but attacks the role of national governance to provide aid. Yet of all of those institutions, it appears as though that same institution was the only one which provided the closest care for her prior to her death.

An interesting read of her background is in an article, “Barack Obama: Mother not just a girl from Kansas”, but seems to have been pulled from all the subsidiaries of the Chicago Tribune. I can find the first page from search engines, but the remainder of the article appears to have all been redirected and no longer available.


105 posted on 10/10/2008 8:31:04 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Only a souless, uncaring son like Obama would play the sympathy card of his mom’s death to help build a case for socialized health care......


106 posted on 10/10/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Prole

It’s called fascism. Obama the fascist


107 posted on 10/10/2008 8:41:27 AM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: kabar
The critical thing you need to remember is that President Kibaki is a friend of the USA. This is probably why the Obama-Odinga monsters in Kenya hate Kibaki so much. Here is a nice photo of him with President Bush:

That said, Communism and Islam do mix. They mesh together when it comes to a unified hatred of our Freedom and Democracy.

Communists, muslims and other anti-government monsters all rallied together to MURDER CHRISTIANS and BURN CHURCHES in Kenya last year.

Odinga lost the election to Kibaki, and Odinga subsequently turned his murderous gaze toward the Christian population. Keep in mind that Obama also supports Odinga. Image is here:

Images from Obama-Odinga's supporters as they attack Christians and burn churches following the loss to President Kibaki:


108 posted on 10/10/2008 8:44:29 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Nathan Zachary; All
Do you have any links about Obama's trip to Hawaii?

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that his "mentor" Frank Marshall Davis abused him.

I believe Pop is Frank Marshall Davis.

Pop

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken

In, sprinkled with ashes,

Pop switches channels, takes another

Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks

What to do with me, a green young man

Who fails to consider the

Flim and flam of the world, since

Things have been easy for me;

I stare hard at his face, a stare

That deflects off his brow;

I'm sure he's unaware of his

Dark, watery eyes, that

Glance in different directions,

And his slow, unwelcome twitches,

Fail to pass.

I listen, nod,

Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,

Beige T-shirt, yelling,

Yelling in his ears, that hang

With heavy lobes, but he's still telling

His joke, so I ask why

He's so unhappy, to which he replies . . .

But I don't care anymore, cause

He took too damn long, and from

Under my seat, I pull out the

Mirror I've been saving; I'm laughing,

Laughing loud, the blood rushing from

his face

To mine, as he grows small,

A spot in my brain, something

That may be squeezed out, like a

Watermelon seed between

Two fingers.

Pop takes another shot, neat,

Points out the same amber

Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine,

and

Makes me smell his smell, coming

From me; he switches channels, recites

an old poem

He wrote before his mother died,

Stands, shouts, and asks

For a hug, as I shink*, my

Arms barely reaching around

His thick, oily neck, and his broad back;

'cause

I see my face, framed within

Pop's black-framed glasses

And know he's laughing too. *

("Shink" may be a typo, but the poem is reproduced as published.)

shink
109 posted on 10/10/2008 8:49:37 AM PDT by Nonperson (Cut off Obama's nut! Prosecute Acorn!)
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To: Prole

The don’t mix politically when it comes to running a country. You don’t have Islamic Marxist governments. The result may be the same, but the ideologies are antithetical when it comes to how they treat religion and God ideologically.


110 posted on 10/10/2008 8:55:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Netizen

She was working on a project in Pakistan for the Asian Development Bank.


111 posted on 10/10/2008 9:03:53 AM PDT by Nonperson (Cut off Obama's nut! Prosecute Acorn!)
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To: kabar; Nathan Zachary
Communism and Islam don’t mix.

They mix very well when each has the goal to destroy America as we know it!

112 posted on 10/10/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by Nonperson (Cut off Obama's nut! Prosecute Acorn!)
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To: squarebarb; All
Where was Obama at this time? There are so many questions about this man.

Barack's mother died on November 7th, 1999.

In 1995 Barack was preparing for his Illinois State Senate race. In late summer he took time off to go around the country on a book tour. On September 19th he launched his campaign in Chicago. In October he went on the "Million Man March". Also during that period he was attending meet and greet functions with the like of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and their ilk. So, you can see he has little time for a "typical white woman"!

113 posted on 10/10/2008 9:23:42 AM PDT by Nonperson (Cut off Obama's nut! Prosecute Acorn!)
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To: Nonperson

So how did it work out? Her living in the hotel, dispensing do-gooder money to Pakistani flim flam hustlers?

(the dark waters close over the obscure and insignificant project, leaving nothing, but ever smaller circles of sunk delusions)


114 posted on 10/10/2008 9:30:21 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Seattle Conservative

WHy didn’t he just heal her by laying his hands on her?


115 posted on 10/10/2008 10:17:52 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Nonperson

Barack’s reported mother, Ann Dunham, reportedly died of ovarian cancer in Hawaii near her parents in 1995.

If one want’s to read some contradictory testimonies, read this account posted in Wikipedia (although as a standard I generally find Wikipedia to be less trustworthy than tabloid journalism, though it does post commonly accepted reports).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

It is interesting to see where Obama claims his mother was Christian and he was raised as a Christian, yet he repeatedly chose and was allowed not to live with his mother and lived with others throughout most of his adolescent childhood. His mother appears to have been historically associated with anything but Christianity.

My first question, is where were the men who had been married to her? The report indicates they were not estranged and Obama had been encouraged to maintain relationships with them.

One father died in 1982, in a car accident in Kenya, I believe. The other Indonesian stepfather, died in 1987 of liver failure.

Obama was basically separate from his mother from age 10, and apparantly lived with his grandparents in Hawaii, although his mother returned to her children for about 4 years until 1977 when she went back overseas for ‘field work’, I presume in cultural anthropology.

(What good is devoting one’s life to studying cultural anthropology when one throws all of one’s family, marriage, national culture and anthropology out the window, and ultimately passing away in a broken society?)


116 posted on 10/10/2008 10:48:50 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: kabar
"Name a communist Islamic state, now or in the past."

There were and are plenty of the "stans" which were and are under Soviet/Russian rule with very large Muslim populations.

The point is, Islam and communism function in a very similar matter, a central governing body, with a single all powerful leader/dictator (Imam/Caliphate) which controls all aspects of a society.

There are plenty of Islamic countries which have a democratic government of sorts which shouldn't exist either by your definition.

117 posted on 10/10/2008 11:08:20 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nonperson
" Points out the same amber Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine, and Makes me smell his smell, coming From me;

Sounds like Obama is describing residue from a homosexual encounter.

118 posted on 10/10/2008 11:15:40 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: kabar
"The don’t mix politically when it comes to running a country. You don’t have Islamic Marxist governments. The result may be the same, but the ideologies are antithetical when it comes to how they treat religion and God ideologically."

Plus You are misreading what I said origionaly. I said Islam and Communism are very similar, both are totalitarian ideologies. But as I pointed out, there are plenty of "stans" which "mixed'=" politically.

Islam and democracy don't mix either, and are far less likely to than Islam and communism, but yet here we are, with plenty of "democratic" Islamic countries in the world.

Even Iran claims to be a democratic country.

In fact,what you don't see, is a purely Islamic country, ruled by a caliph, which is what Mohammad was the very first one of. We do however, see Islamic countries run by communist dictators, presided over by the soviet Tzar, Putin.

119 posted on 10/10/2008 11:27:49 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: alicewonders
And I don’t remember him bringing this up before the debate. If it were true, you’d think he would have been touting this all during his campaign.

<speculation>

I'd expect that a situation such as this would have been covered in one or the other of his biographies, perhaps both. I have to wonder if it was ever mentioned in either of them.

I'm uncertain as to when he wrote his books in relation to the timing of his mother's death. As far as I can tell, both books were written in the 2000's, well after his mother had died. Does anyone happen to know the initial publishing dates of his biographies and whether the circumstances regarding his mother's passing was covered in either of them?

</speculation>

120 posted on 10/10/2008 11:31:06 AM PDT by Bob
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