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Hispanics Turn Cold Shoulder to McCain
The Politico ^ | October 9, 2008 | Ben Smith

Posted on 10/09/2008 7:09:23 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

Despite championing immigration reform in 2007, John McCain is poised to lose the Hispanic vote by a landslide margin that is well below President George W. Bush's 2004 performance.

Polls show Obama winning the broadest support from Latino voters of any Democrat in a decade, while McCain is struggling to reach 30 percent, closer to Senator Bob Dole's dismal 1996 result than to Bush's historic 40% four years ago.

McCain seems to have wound up with the worst of both worlds: He appears to be getting no credit from Latino voters for his past support for immigration reform, while carrying the baggage of other Republicans' hostility to illegal immigration.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; cira; electionpresident; hispanicvote; immigrantlist; justdesserts; justice; karma; mcamnesty; mccain; mccaintruthfile
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To: csense

I dont ever expect you to understand...that I know is part of life.

Thank you for proving my point;)


61 posted on 10/09/2008 11:14:57 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: Texas4ever
but also because the Republican party has never welcomed or sought after their votes....

You're being too nice. I'll say it. There are bigots here. There are just too many asshats that think that the republican party is some kind of white people club. Bigotry itself runs counter to the core of conservatism and they need to be weeded out of our party.

62 posted on 10/09/2008 11:46:54 PM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: Texas4ever

“Let me say this the day when my daughter can go to school and not be called a wetback....or Messican...hear me

my daughter went to school, she is a beautiful latino looking girl, she plays on the tennis team , during practice the ball went over the fence.....a kid yelled let
p get it she is used to jumping fences! They all laughed.
I told the counselors and teachers and they told me, to lighten up!

Yea! we are all Americans.”

My son has blonde hair and blue eyes and because he wears his hair in a high and tight, gets called a “skinhead” and “neo nazi”. He wears his hair in a high and tight because my husband is military, he comes from a long line of military men, and I’ve always kept my boys’ hair like their dads. Today, my son who is in Jr. AFROTC had to wear his uniform to school. Nellis AFB pays $400 for each uniform. Some kids grabbed his hat, smashed it into food, threw it around laughing and then some kid said “hey, flush it down the toilet and they ran off to the bathroom with it. My son reported to them and he got basically the same response.......basically to lighten up.

While living in a border town in Texas, some hispanic kids at the high school drug a white girl into the bathroom and cut her face all up with a knife because she was white and her parents were from the base. This is what they admitted later. So it runs both ways and I’m sick and tired of only hearing about minority victims as though racism against whites doesn’t exist.


63 posted on 10/10/2008 12:14:59 AM PDT by LaurenD
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To: Texas4ever
.................You really have no idea how cruel people can be. My family is very loving and loved George Bush, they loved Hillary Clinton and they Love America..I dont get it.

Then they should certainly love John McCain.

64 posted on 10/10/2008 12:18:20 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I warned that if the Republicans failed to disassociate themselves from the radical anti-immigrant elements within the party that this would happen. I guess they will be happy giving the Dems the Hispanic vote on a silver platter and confining our party to the dustbin.


65 posted on 10/10/2008 12:27:18 AM PDT by robert david (Any criticism of John McCain is tactic support for Barack Obama.)
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To: bad company

Unfortunately, Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were right about the bigots in the party and it will cost our party and our country dearly. The GOP needs to make its mission in life to weed out the miscreants who have consistently alienated Hispanics from the party if we are to have any hope in future elections.


66 posted on 10/10/2008 12:43:57 AM PDT by robert david (Any criticism of John McCain is tactic support for Barack Obama.)
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To: raybbr

You could always learn Spanish.


67 posted on 10/10/2008 12:47:26 AM PDT by robert david (Any criticism of John McCain is tactic support for Barack Obama.)
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To: FFranco

It’s comments like these that have cost the GOP so many votes and possibly the election.


68 posted on 10/10/2008 12:49:35 AM PDT by robert david (Any criticism of John McCain is tactic support for Barack Obama.)
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To: robert david; bad company
Unfortunately, Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were right about the bigots in the party and it will cost our party and our country dearly.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and their ilk are traitors to this great nation, and have betrayed her, by allowing a socialist tide of illegal aliens to invade her, by thwarting the rule of law, and by promoting the naturalization of those IAs, watering down our electorate and in doing so, surrendering us to the chains of socialism or worse.

The GOP needs to make its mission in life to weed out the miscreants who have consistently alienated Hispanics from the party if we are to have any hope in future elections.

The GOP needs to go away. It no longer serves a useful purpose. The way forward is to enforce the rule of law. Remove all aid and comfort of all illegal aliens. Enforce sanctions on employers. IAs will leave when there is no means for them to live here, as has already been proved on a small scale by many counties.

It is a gross distortion to portray Conservatives as bigoted toward Latinos. That is utterly FALSE. We are bigoted against ILLEGAL ALIENS. It doesn't matter if they are Latinos, Martians, or Toy Poodles.

Multi-culturalism must die. Lopsided immigration standards favoring certain countries, especially socialist countries must end. If anything, we should favor immigrants from democracies, from allies.

The amnesty you favor will remove the Republican party from power for all time, and will usher in unlimited socialism. America as we know it will be gone.

69 posted on 10/10/2008 1:23:33 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: robert david
It’s comments like these that have cost the GOP so many votes and possibly the election.

If the election is lost (and I think it has been, ever since McCain was nominated), It will be because Conservatives do not support the candidate.

70 posted on 10/10/2008 1:25:40 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; robert david
The amnesty you favor

Speak of the devil. Mention brown people and the bigots come out of the woodwork. Show me where either of our posts favored amnesty.

71 posted on 10/10/2008 1:38:12 AM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: bad company
Speak of the devil. Mention brown people and the bigots come out of the woodwork. Show me where either of our posts favored amnesty.

Sorry, but the minute "bigot" comes out, I assume it is so. I have no bigotry toward Latinos whatsoever. My BIL is a (black) Costa Rican, and is here LEGALLY on a green card, working toward citizenship. I know Mexicans and Indians, and get along fine with both. Your accusations are offensive and certainly misplaced.

72 posted on 10/10/2008 1:47:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Your accusations are offensive and certainly misplaced.

Well then show me then, in either of our posts, where either of us advocated amnesty? Simple question.

73 posted on 10/10/2008 1:53:05 AM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: bad company
Well then show me then, in either of our posts, where either of us advocated amnesty? Simple question.

There was a simple apology in reply:

[roamer_1:] Sorry, but the minute "bigot" comes out, I assume it is so.

Those who so quickly resort to calling us bigots did so at the height of the amnesty debacle- so it is a knee-jerk reaction. I have apologized if you are indeed declaring yourself against amnesty in any form, but will just as quickly retract it if you are parsing the subject Rino/McCain style.

Still, your unfounded accusation toward me and my fellows being bigots lingers on...

74 posted on 10/10/2008 2:02:01 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Still, your unfounded accusation toward me and my fellows being bigots lingers on...

I re-read your first post to me and all that is wrong with it and I am reminded of the old adage, when you throw a stone into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

75 posted on 10/10/2008 2:24:28 AM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: bad company
all that is wrong with it

So what, pray tell, is wrong with it?

76 posted on 10/10/2008 2:31:57 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: robert david
It isn't anti-immigrant, but anti-illegal immigrant.

Cry all you want about bigots, but there is nothing more bigoted than those who think some people are above the law because of some religious, behavioural, or physical trait they happen to have.

77 posted on 10/10/2008 2:49:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Please God, he will retire if he loses won’t he?

Not likely unless he gets beaten in the GOP Senate primary.

78 posted on 10/10/2008 3:26:05 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: robert david
You could always learn Spanish.

Warum? I kann Deutsch sprechen. Warum soll ich spanisch lernen?

79 posted on 10/10/2008 3:45:12 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Texas4ever; csense
I dont ever expect you to understand...that I know is part of life. Thank you for proving my point;)

Thanks for proving my point that you claim victim status.

Tell us again how the GOP can win the hispanic vote. You've already shown us how you want the GOP to woo the victim vote.

80 posted on 10/10/2008 3:53:06 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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