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Big Marriage Wins in the Making? (Good News on CA Prop. 8)
NRO's The Corner ^ | 10.9/2008 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 10/09/2008 12:10:01 PM PDT by mojito

Things are looking good for marriage amendments in California, Florida and Arizona.

California is the big surprise. After discouraging polls all summer, the latest CBS News/SurveyUSA Today poll shows Prop 8, the California marriage amendment, surging ahead 47 percent to 42 percent, with 10 percent undecided — that’s a ten point swing since the Yes on Prop 8 campaign ads started airing.

Younger voters are leading the swing against gay marriage, reports CBS News. Why? My best guess is: a lot of them are parents who don’t really want their schools teaching their 5 year olds about King and King (See the latest ad, at www.protectmarriage.com.)

BTW, Pepperdine’s is calling on the Yes on 8 campaign to stop identifying Prof. Richard Peterson as a Pepperdine Law School professor.

Meanwhile the Miami Herald is conceding that polls show the Florida marriage amendment commands a strong majority support.

Getting to 60 percent is a big hurdle, but the undecideds tend to break in favor of marriage amendments.

In Arizona the latest poll shows the marriage amendment is up 49 percent to 40 percent.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ca2008; defenseofmarriage; homosexualagenda; marriageamendment; prop8; proposition8; samesexmarriage
Some good news.
1 posted on 10/09/2008 12:10:01 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Prop 8 will win easily, there was never any doubt, any polls saying otherwise are push polls.


2 posted on 10/09/2008 12:12:15 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: mojito
It must be winning, the militant gay warriors normally out every day are not out throwing it in everyone's face. They are hiding in the shadows hoping if they don't show us what they truly are, people will feel sorry for them and let it not get passed.
3 posted on 10/09/2008 12:14:16 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: mojito

There was an op/ed piece in the LA Times a few weeks ago where and avowed liberal writer (whose name escapes me) wrote how he was for Prop 8 mainly because the institution of marriage has always been a means of strengthening family bonds and giving children a structured and secure environment. I think most people, who are open to the idea of two people having a legal arrangement no matter their gender, acknowledge the importance of the traditional marriage arrangement to children and so will vote for it.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 12:15:11 PM PDT by drew
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To: mojito

The media here in the Bay Area contends it’s close...just like when it was voted down before.

When the market recovers, I am moving from Mexifornia, for good.


5 posted on 10/09/2008 12:15:17 PM PDT by wac3rd (The MSM will accompany the Captain of the SS Marxist Titanic to the bottom of Lake Michigan)
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To: mojito

Quick question, when 8 passes what happens to laws like SB777?

Are this laws still on the books and our children taught all this crap or do they get removed from law.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 12:15:54 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: mojito

the homo’s are using and have used dirty tactics here in Florida

First they went to court and got everyone who signed the ballot question to go on the Internet
their intimidation never worked

now the question is on the ballot they are using misleading signs to trick the elderly and independents
it says
vote no on 2 protect Florida families
then they use another sign next to it saying Jesus doesn’t discriminate

notice they never use the word gay or homosexual

no they are trying to trick the voter with their Jesus doesn’t discriminate signs

what they do not count on is that many do know what the question is and that we do tell others

so if they want their sham marriage go to MA where it was forced on the people and hopefully one day the people in MA vote their legislature out and get the question on the ballot up there as well


7 posted on 10/09/2008 12:16:30 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: mojito

The Hispanic non profits are organizing to fight this in California.

More family values?

From today’s LAT:

“The No on 8 campaign announced rallies in Latino neighborhoods. Los Angeles Unified School District board President Monica Garcia and others will gather at noon today for a rally and to open an office in East Los Angeles.”

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=48eebed5f1cc2092&ei=d1nuSK-pE4j6lQTatIW-Ag&url=http%3A//www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-gaymarriage8-2008oct08%2C0%2C1678837.story&cid=1255868604&usg=AFQjCNHVY-nnIl-6I0uFoVBtlFw9OOR96Q


8 posted on 10/09/2008 12:22:01 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: mojito
Does this mean gay marriages will be annulled?
9 posted on 10/09/2008 12:25:38 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: drew
...he was for Prop 8 mainly because the institution of marriage has always been a means of strengthening family bonds

And, the institution of marriage has always been defined as a bond between a man and a woman.

I wounder if that small fact was given consideration when highlighting those "strengthening bonds"...

10 posted on 10/09/2008 12:27:07 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: mojito

Great News...
The ads are very impactful...

Like the one about the little boy that asks his mommy if it is okay for 2 boys to get married because that is what his teacher said...


11 posted on 10/09/2008 12:42:49 PM PDT by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
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To: apocalypto

I believe it will mean that those marriages will no longer be recognized by the State of California.

However, I’m sure there will be a legal challenge.

And, of course, if the case gets to the CA SC, we know how they will decide.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 12:48:10 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
I predict they will ALL pass - 60% is a hurdle in FL but I think it will get better than 60% plus. Traditional marriage is a winning issue in the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 10/09/2008 9:30:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mojito
An act that is a sin in the eyes of God is ALWAYS a sin. No human court can change it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 10/09/2008 9:32:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mojito

I don’t think so. For the time being, gay marriage is legal in California. My brother and his partner are getting married in L.A. in late October to try to beat the clock, so to speak. I think marriages conducted before then may be grandfathered in since they were conducted while under the law.

There will be a challenge, however.

Best,

Chris


15 posted on 10/12/2008 2:38:51 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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But, Chris, you yourself use the word partner—not wife or husband. I believe Californians adamantly support the right to gay civil unions and also will overthrow the undemocratic dictates of the so-call Supreme Court. No one likes to invoke a constitutional amendment for this but, frankly, the Gay & Lesbian community could bea little more understanding and a little less demanding. The general public supports tolerance but not more.


16 posted on 10/17/2008 4:45:13 AM PDT by Espinoza
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