Posted on 10/08/2008 2:17:37 PM PDT by RogerFGay
It is terrifying to see our financial system crumbling because of corruption on Wall Street, aided and abetted by government policies of too much federal spending, debt, and intervention in the economy. But it is also troubling to see our economic system of free enterprise slipping away as the candidates of both major political parties propose more federal intervention, spending and debt as solutions to these problems. Our media have an obligation to inform the American people that we are moving into a full-blown socialist economy. ... cont.
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That’s our choice this time . Socialist-lite or Socialist-Marxist. Pick one. (Tongue only slightly in cheek)
The Dem primaries seemed to be a contest between who could promise to give away more $$$.
The main election is following the same pattern.
One candidate promises $X.
The other candidate ups the ante with $X+1000 deduction.
Are the voters buying it? After all, the candidates are playing with the taxpayers’ money.
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Cliff: stop kneejerking. Think, then publish.
First, try to reasonably understand what such a proposal might be trying to accomplish and why it might be needed.
Then, and only then, try to analyze whether the proposal addresses the issue in an appropriate way.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2100340/posts?page=21#21
I’m sick and tired of the “Wall Street” class warfare trash.
The DEMOCRATS did this! Plain and simple. They leaned HEAVY on financial institutions to provide risky loans. They called them racists, bigoted, prejudiced, etc., because banks DIDN’T want to engage in these risky sub-prime loans to people who could NEVER pay them back. Then they set up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy these risky loans from the banks. Then they STOPPED REAL REFORMS that were needed to stop the problem dead in its tracks BEFORE the housing bubble started to break.
Now it’s “Wall Street”
I’m fed up with so many Americans buying into the big lie. The politicians have completely perfected Goebbels Nazi propaganda, tell a BIG lie, and repeat it often and it will be believed.
It wasn’t “Wall Street” that caused this mess, it was DEMOCRATS! And then they put CORRUPT Democrats in charge of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and fleeced HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in campaign contributions over 10 years. Look even “Gorelick” of the Clinton “wall” fame, who engineered the mechanism for the 9/11 terrorists to avoid detection. SHE was put in charge of one of the institutions and RIPPED OFF the American Public to the tune of some 75 MILLION in bonuses to buy up all those risky trash loans that the DEMOCRATS insisted had to be done.
Is Wall Street innocent? Nope, but this Socialist - Communist inspired class warfare has got to stop. It’s time people started pointing at the REAL root of the problem, the Party that calls itself “Democrat” but does not believe in democracy...
National security expert and former Pentagon official Frank Gaffney warned two years ago about Bush’s appointment of Paulson, calling him the “Armand Hammer of China,” a reference to the businessman who built up the power of the old Soviet Union in exchange for favors from the communists. At a time when Paulson was up for Senate confirmation, Gaffney asked, “Will any of his Senate interlocutors even bother to explore the nominee’s troubling fifteen-year ties to Communist China and the potential for serious conflicts of interest they pose, with national security as well as economic implications for our country?” The answer was no. Paulson’s nomination was confirmed by unanimous voice vote.As we noted in a column, Paulson’s plan, which was passed by Congress, includes a provision to enable him to bail out banks in China and other countries holding U.S. financial assets. This is one of many conflicts of interest involving Paulson and China.
John McCain is going to do that, probably around Nov 12 in President Bush's Whitehouse, after the sleepover in Lincoln's bedroom with all the holdovers President Bush wouldn't sack 8 years ago.
FMCDH(BITS)
The history of this “bail out” went basically like this:
The sky is falling!!!
We HAVE to do something NOW!!!
This (the bail out plan) is SOMETHING.
OK, then we HAVE to do THIS now!!!
It never made sense to me. There were other options but no one would slow down to even consider what they might be. No discussion, no debate. We MUST do it NOW. I wonder if other countries fell to socialism this easily.
Just one more reason why we need a Third Party.
Oh what the heck, when all else fails "we" can always tap into the Social Security "fund" again. LOL.
This would be funny if the people involved weren't so serious about this. "Office of Financial Stability." Hahaha. Sort of like the Ministry of Truth where Winston Smith worked to rewrite history every day. Down the memory hole!
Cash-and-Carry?
Yes, you’ve beating the Third Party drum for a long time and you were right. I’ll only add that now that this election is in the toilet with little chance of a revival, THIS is the perfect time for citizens to band together and form that needed Third Party. I don’t hold out much hope of it happening though.
As for a parliamentary style government, I freely admit I don’t know much about that form of government. You’ve raised my curiosity so I’ll be looking into it now.
You'd think the Republicans would have learned that lesson when they ran Dole. And I liked Dole, he was a personable candidate which is more than I can say about McCain. That holds true for most of those posting here even if they deny it right now. You only have to go 6 months back in the posts here to see how most hated McCain.
He lost early - had a chance to get in the race when Sarah Palin was chosen - not because she's a woman, but because she exuded conservative spirit. They then went about systematically killing it off.
I'll be honest and fair if you will. It was both because she was a woman AND because she exuded conservative spirit. At this point in time I don't think a say...equally conservative male governor like Tim Pawlenty could have pulled that off the way Palin did.
I'm not saying Palin is a true conservative. Not trying to restart the argument on that. But you know - I am sure that Reagan wasn't a conservative.
You won't get an argument from me about Reagan for reasons probably only you and I in this forum understand. To make a negative observation about Reagan's performance as president is akin to blasphemy here. No, I don't buy into the Reagan Myth and I never really did.
But the Reagan myth is textbook for all the young political class out there running the election campaigns. What’s going wrong in my view is that it’s become all to “scientific” - run by polls of course - with strategies based on past races. Even if it’s blasphemous to unveil the real Reagan in this forum, the deeper elements of his win in 1980 have gone sour in the last three decades - mostly because of what Reagan actually did while in office. The political class and their pollsters don’t understand it that deeply. They don’t realize that Reaganeering is doomed to backfire - no matter how many polls say people still admire him.
Reflecting - it occured to me that there are people who were born while Reagan was president who have already grown up and experienced the problems he created.
BTW: Are you getting my pings. You are on the list, but you didn’t respond to my ping test.
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