Berg Outraged: Obama & DNC file motion to delay discovery until ... motion to dismiss is decided

Obama Crimes ^ | October 6, 2008 | Press Release

[fortunecookie]

Suppose irrefutable proof of a foreign birth is ‘found’ after the election and Obama has won? What happens then? And even if he loses? And I’m a little curious to know why Hillary isn’t more curious about her former opponent? It’s a little different than Kerry hiding his papers regarding the war.

[edge10]

Are they afraid the father will be listed as...could it be Satan?

[realcleanguy]

I think that is obvious

[Cacique]

btt

[mlocher]

WHat judge is going to have the nads to get this heard before the election

You nailed this one. If Obama is elected, I can hardly wait for the Supreme Court to have to make a ruling.

[ConservativeGreek]

constitution is amazingly detailed

I understand but........

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

But the website refers to him as an illegal alien.

[Bob]

The constitution is amazingly detailed in its definition.

There are only three requirements listed. While the age and residency requirements are pretty clear-cut, the term "natural born" is left to other sources to define.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[Dajjal]

But the website refers to him as an illegal alien.

Berg's argument goes something like this: When Lolo Soetoro married Sydney Dunham and formally adopted Barry he conferred Indonesian citizenship upon them both; and they both lost their US citizenship (because the US recognizes dual citizenship only with nations that do likewise, which Indonesia does not).

When Sydney divorced him and returned to Hawaii, she ought to have renounced her Indonesian citizenship before a judge or authority in order to restore her US citizenship (as a "[re]naturalized" citizen; not as a "natural born" citizen); Barry / Barack should have done this when he reached the age of majority.

Berg strongly suspects that neither of them ever did this. He is demanding to see BHO's signed loyalty oath and is getting stonewalled.

If BHO never even became a "[re]naturalized citizen" then he is still an Indonesian, and has illegally resided in the US, run for public offices in Illinois, etc.

[N.B. Berg would need to establish that Lolo did formally adopt Barry; Barry was probably too old a child to obtain Indonesian citizenship automatically by his mother's marriage to an Indonesian, under Indonesian law. At least, this is how I understand the allegations.]

[curling]

I agree with the concept. Obama can make this ALL GO AWAY by simply showing the necessary documents. Once he does that it’s CASE CLOSED. By doing that, he would make Berg and his supporters look like fools.

But he’s “lawyering up” on such a simple, slam dunk response.

[I'm ALL Right!]

Can someone get a copy of this from the actual public records in Pennsylvania? “Obama Crimes” doesn’t seem like the best source for this, if it is in fact a real document.

[TXnMA]

...and, supposedly, infant footprint...

[ConservativeGreek]

Thanks.

Wow, I didn’t know this was so deep.

[nikos1121]

I thought that the judge ruled against their motion to dismiss or is an appeal?

[Dajjal]

I thought that the judge ruled against their motion to dismiss or is an appeal?

I've just checked the best sources, and unless something has happened in the last few minutes and is not online anywhere, Judge R. Barclay Surrick has not yet ruled one way or the other on the BHO/DNC motion to dismiss.

[Dajjal]

Can someone get a copy of this from the actual public records in Pennsylvania? “Obama Crimes” doesn’t seem like the best source for this, if it is in fact a real document.

I haven't used it but the actual court documents are all on the site used as a source for this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095499/posts
Berg files motion asking court to deny Obama's dismissal request [No order]
United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ^ | October 1, 2008 | JustiaDocs
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:16:50 PM by conservativegramma

As I said, I haven't used it, but I recall a Freeper posting that on JustiaDocs (docs.justia.com) you can view (or was it print?) the first 90 pages for free, and after that there was some nominal charge per page. I think it was 90 -- but check their rules yourself before you enter.

I do not know if JustiaDocs is technically the same as the PACER System (Public Access to Court Electronic Records). If they are different, I haven't used the PACER System either. They also have a nominal charge. Here is the url for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania subsite of PACER:
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/us01001.asp

Note also that the parties have typically been filing their motions late in the day; so if Berg slips something over the desk at 4:59 PM it won't be on the official site until the next working day, whereas the Freepers and bloggers and PUMAs will have it up at their websites right away.

[Dajjal]

...and, supposedly, infant footprint...

Thanks for reminding me -- that would be extremely useful!!!!!

[nikos1121]

so someone is full of doodoo when they say that he has ruled their motion to dismiss.

[Dajjal]

so someone is full of doodoo when they say that he has ruled their motion to dismiss.

(unless it's just happened) ... ABSOLUTELY!