Posted on 10/06/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by Chet 99
A lot of folks lie to the polsters.
They all seem to be in the tank for Obama. From Fox to Ras to whom ever??
I am sure there are many patriotic red necks waking up to hear that Obam is going to win Virginia lol
There is no way Obama is up in all the states they claim, this will back fire on Barry.
Mind you this CBS poll sounds pretty good.
There was a wash post abc poll last week that was also pretty good. Neither of these will get much play though.
How's that for poetic justice?
If that’s the largest lead CBS could manufacture for the Marxist, the man is in trouble. This afterall, is a national poll and they generally do not capture the state by state situation. National polls tend to give Onada the edge.
Or Happy Gilmore, the golfer character. Lord have mercy, why do I know trivial facts about an Adam Sandler movie?!
.since CBS only asked Democrats and [B]non-thinking nitwits[/B], Id think we were doing pretty good....
Fixed. Hate to split hairs but it needed clarification.
I just checked the NBC/WSJ internals (available at http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/081006_NBC-WSJ_Full_Release.pdf). If I read it right, here is the breakdown for that poll (including leaners):
Dem: 44
GOP: 36
Ind/others: 20
If you exclude the indepedents who lean one way or the other, the breakdown is this:
Dem: 31 (21 strong DEM, 10 weak Dem)
GOP: 25 (17 strong GOP, 8 weak” GOP)
IND: 39 (15 not leaning, 13 leaning Dem, 11 leaning GOP)
Either way, this is not a representative sample of likely voters.
This is the second straight poll in less than an hour that shows what some of us have been saying all week about where this race really stands. Having said that, this poll is such a mess internally that I would totally dismiss it rather than infer (as I did with the CBS poll) that, in fact, McCain may actually be slightly ahead again in a real likely voter sample.
Cedric,
The more you rant, the stupider you look. I’ve post many times that I don’t necessarily view any one poll as ‘accurate’, instead I like to track movement. Although any individual poll by Gallup may be meaningless, it might mean something if the raw number is moving in one direction or another. Furthermore if Gallup were completely meaningless, RCP probably wouldn’t use their findings in their averages.
Like I’ve stated before, if you don’t like the thread then don’t read it. It’s pretty simple.
I know. It's going to be ugly.
thanks!!!
More useless polls designed to discourage turnout among opponents of the messiah. We should make it a point to deliberately lie to pollsters so we can screw up their plans. The only poll that counts is the one on election day.
In the LA Riots after the Rodney King verdict, the Afrikan Americans went out on the street looking to get even with Whitey. So what did they do?
The rioters went over to the nearby shops, and burned down Korea Town. They were so stupid they assumed anyone who owns a shop was white, and in a rage of bigotry the rioters ruined the livelihoods and life savings of thousands of very hard working asian people who never did them any wrong.
I can’t imagine what will happen this time!
¨Rasmussen is assuming that 6% more Democrats than Republicans will vote. This is simply unrealistic. Democrats havent had more than a 4 points advantage in any Presidential election since 1980 (and how well did THAT work out for Jimmy Carter....but I digress). The last time that the Dems had as much as a 4 point advantage was in 2000, when Gore nevertheless won the popular vote by less than 0.5%. In 2004, an essentially equal number of Democrats and Republicans voted. Two years ago, in a horrible election for the GOP, the Dem advantage was only 3 points.¨
That is simply not true. You seem to be confusing stated party ID with actual turnout. In 2006 the Democrats had a 5.4% voting advantage for House candidates and a 9.4% voting advantage for Senate candidates. 2008 is arguably an even more dangerous year for Republicans than 2006 because of the downturn in the economy. Perhaps the base will come out strongly and prove Rasmussen wrong, but given that the Democrats turned out to the tune of a combined 7% MORE than Republicans in 2006 and the economy has taken a bad turn, Rasmussen is not off the rocker for assuming a similar voting pattern once again this year.
The simple fact is all pollsters make ASSUMPTIONS about turnout.
This year theyre buying to the coming youth vote tidal wave delusion.
The next time it happens will be the first.
I agree with you. The internals of the NBC/WSJ poll looks good for McCain as well.
God bless Sarah Palin for her debate performance the other night.
God bless John McCain for bringing us Sarah Palin.
Better yet, stop posting the damn, worthless thing.
Your embarrassing yourself.
Go to hell Cedric.
I am so glad I refused to turn on Brit tonight. I’m so over the doom and gloom Panel. The reason Juan is hopeful is because he’s Head Cheerleader for Mrs. Clinton.
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