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CBS Poll: Presidential Race Tightens (Obama 48%, McCain 45% LV)
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Posted on 10/06/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by Chet 99

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To: kesg

A lot of folks lie to the polsters.


81 posted on 10/06/2008 4:34:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Thane_Banquo

They all seem to be in the tank for Obama. From Fox to Ras to whom ever??

I am sure there are many patriotic red necks waking up to hear that Obam is going to win Virginia lol

There is no way Obama is up in all the states they claim, this will back fire on Barry.

Mind you this CBS poll sounds pretty good.

There was a wash post abc poll last week that was also pretty good. Neither of these will get much play though.


82 posted on 10/06/2008 4:36:18 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Obama on the other hand does not know the Lord Jesus, and is only the Lords enemy)
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To: Rapunzel
A high percentage of the homes they'll burn down will, by then, be managed by Hank Paulson and his homies.

How's that for poetic justice?

83 posted on 10/06/2008 4:36:34 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Chet 99

If that’s the largest lead CBS could manufacture for the Marxist, the man is in trouble. This afterall, is a national poll and they generally do not capture the state by state situation. National polls tend to give Onada the edge.


84 posted on 10/06/2008 4:37:11 PM PDT by dools007
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas
(In Billy Madison voice) Somebody’s closer!

Or Happy Gilmore, the golfer character. Lord have mercy, why do I know trivial facts about an Adam Sandler movie?!

85 posted on 10/06/2008 4:38:57 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: Tzimisce
.since CBS only asked Democrats, I’d think we were doing pretty good....

.since CBS only asked Democrats and [B]non-thinking nitwits[/B], I’d think we were doing pretty good....

Fixed. Hate to split hairs but it needed clarification.

86 posted on 10/06/2008 4:39:34 PM PDT by riri
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To: riri
.since CBS only asked Democrats and non-thinking nitwits, I’d think we were doing pretty good.... Fixed. Hate to split hairs but it needed clarification Fixed. Wrong message board. And no, I wasn't polled. (:
87 posted on 10/06/2008 4:40:54 PM PDT by riri
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To: ubaldus; Chet 99; Perdogg; impeachedrapist; tatown; LS

I just checked the NBC/WSJ internals (available at http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/081006_NBC-WSJ_Full_Release.pdf). If I read it right, here is the breakdown for that poll (including leaners):

Dem: 44
GOP: 36
Ind/others: 20

If you exclude the indepedents who lean one way or the other, the breakdown is this:

Dem: 31 (21 strong DEM, 10 weak Dem)
GOP: 25 (17 strong GOP, 8 weak” GOP)
IND: 39 (15 not leaning, 13 leaning Dem, 11 leaning GOP)

Either way, this is not a representative sample of likely voters.

This is the second straight poll in less than an hour that shows what some of us have been saying all week about where this race really stands. Having said that, this poll is such a mess internally that I would totally dismiss it rather than infer (as I did with the CBS poll) that, in fact, McCain may actually be slightly ahead again in a real likely voter sample.


88 posted on 10/06/2008 4:45:06 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Cedric

Cedric,
The more you rant, the stupider you look. I’ve post many times that I don’t necessarily view any one poll as ‘accurate’, instead I like to track movement. Although any individual poll by Gallup may be meaningless, it might mean something if the raw number is moving in one direction or another. Furthermore if Gallup were completely meaningless, RCP probably wouldn’t use their findings in their averages.

Like I’ve stated before, if you don’t like the thread then don’t read it. It’s pretty simple.


89 posted on 10/06/2008 4:46:07 PM PDT by tatown
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To: LS
What this means is that if McCain sneaks out an EC win in November, the streets are gonna light up with how the election was “stolen.”

I know. It's going to be ugly.

90 posted on 10/06/2008 4:46:22 PM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg

thanks!!!


91 posted on 10/06/2008 4:46:34 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (A vote for Hussein is insane!)
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To: Chet 99

More useless polls designed to discourage turnout among opponents of the messiah. We should make it a point to deliberately lie to pollsters so we can screw up their plans. The only poll that counts is the one on election day.


92 posted on 10/06/2008 4:46:49 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: LS

In the LA Riots after the Rodney King verdict, the Afrikan Americans went out on the street looking to get even with Whitey. So what did they do?

The rioters went over to the nearby shops, and burned down Korea Town. They were so stupid they assumed anyone who owns a shop was white, and in a rage of bigotry the rioters ruined the livelihoods and life savings of thousands of very hard working asian people who never did them any wrong.

I can’t imagine what will happen this time!


93 posted on 10/06/2008 4:47:10 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: kesg

¨Rasmussen is assuming that 6% more Democrats than Republicans will vote. This is simply unrealistic. Democrats haven’t had more than a 4 points advantage in any Presidential election since 1980 (and how well did THAT work out for Jimmy Carter....but I digress). The last time that the Dems had as much as a 4 point advantage was in 2000, when Gore nevertheless won the popular vote by less than 0.5%. In 2004, an essentially equal number of Democrats and Republicans voted. Two years ago, in a horrible election for the GOP, the Dem advantage was only 3 points.¨

That is simply not true. You seem to be confusing stated party ID with actual turnout. In 2006 the Democrats had a 5.4% voting advantage for House candidates and a 9.4% voting advantage for Senate candidates. 2008 is arguably an even more dangerous year for Republicans than 2006 because of the downturn in the economy. Perhaps the base will come out strongly and prove Rasmussen wrong, but given that the Democrats turned out to the tune of a combined 7% MORE than Republicans in 2006 and the economy has taken a bad turn, Rasmussen is not off the rocker for assuming a similar voting pattern once again this year.


94 posted on 10/06/2008 4:48:11 PM PDT by floridagopvoter
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To: kesg

The simple fact is all pollsters make ASSUMPTIONS about turnout.

This year they’re buying to the “coming youth vote tidal wave” delusion.

The next time it happens will be the first.


95 posted on 10/06/2008 4:48:22 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: kesg

I agree with you. The internals of the NBC/WSJ poll looks good for McCain as well.


96 posted on 10/06/2008 4:48:39 PM PDT by tatown
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To: Chet 99

God bless Sarah Palin for her debate performance the other night.

God bless John McCain for bringing us Sarah Palin.


97 posted on 10/06/2008 4:48:46 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: tatown

Better yet, stop posting the damn, worthless thing.

Your embarrassing yourself.


98 posted on 10/06/2008 4:50:16 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric

Go to hell Cedric.


99 posted on 10/06/2008 4:52:14 PM PDT by tatown
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To: dormee

I am so glad I refused to turn on Brit tonight. I’m so over the doom and gloom Panel. The reason Juan is hopeful is because he’s Head Cheerleader for Mrs. Clinton.


100 posted on 10/06/2008 4:52:17 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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