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I read about this article on another thread and sought it out. I was very interested in what it had to say and I must say that Mr. Mamet's insights into Liberalism and his subsequent conversion to Conservatism are fascinating. I think I'll send this to my Liberal son and see what he thinks. Its long but, a great read.
1 posted on 10/06/2008 5:15:12 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
For a very entertaining and poignant conversion story see: HERITAGE FOUNDATION: "How Modern Liberals Think" by Evan Sayet
2 posted on 10/06/2008 5:17:57 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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I first heard about the “liberals think everyone is basically good and conservatives think everyone is basically selfish” line from Rush years ago. I’ve thought a lot about it and the older I get, the more true it becomes.

It can be a painful thing, going from a deep-seated assumption that people are “basically good” to the realization that they’re not. It requires, as my husband would say, a complete “paradigm shift” that many aren’t self aware enough to contemplate, let alone master by incorporating it into their daily lives.


4 posted on 10/06/2008 5:24:25 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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Good Lord! This is as wordy and unreadable as a William F. Buckley column.


5 posted on 10/06/2008 5:30:03 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Reaganesque
Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh.

He's still got a long way to go, but the longest journey begins with a single step.

6 posted on 10/06/2008 5:34:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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bump


11 posted on 10/06/2008 6:02:22 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart - bumper sticker)
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“I read about this article on another thread and sought it out.”

Link to the other article by D’Souza ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2098526/posts


15 posted on 10/06/2008 6:27:31 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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Excellent, insightful post — thanks for seeking it out for all to see!

My nomination for best line in the article:

For, in the abstract, we may envision an Olympian perfection of perfect beings in Washington doing the business of their employers, the people, but any of us who has ever been at a zoning meeting with our property at stake is aware of the urge to cut through all the pernicious bullshit and go straight to firearms.


20 posted on 10/06/2008 7:04:29 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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It sounds as if David is only one more revelation away from the two greatest truths of Man's existence - our lowliness and our only hope:

"...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" - Romans 3:2

and

"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." - Romans 5:8

28 posted on 10/06/2008 8:10:19 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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One was of a state where everything was magically wrong and must be immediately corrected at any cost; and the other—the world in which I actually functioned day to day—was made up of people, most of whom were reasonably trying to maximize their comfort by getting along with each other (in the workplace, the marketplace, the jury room, on the freeway, even at the school-board meeting).

This reminded me of this quote...

All men seek happiness. This is without exception. Whatever different means they employ, they all tend to this end. The cause of some going to war, and of others avoiding it, is the same desire in both, attended with different views. The will never takes the least step but to this object. This is the motive of every action of every man, even of those who hang themselves. (Pascal’s Pensées, thought #425, edited by Trotter, 113). - Blaise Pascal

32 posted on 10/06/2008 8:57:36 AM PDT by highlander_UW (In addition to being able to field dress a moose, Gov. Palin can field dress a donkey too!)
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I woulda never figured Mamet to go right.

He always seemed one of the worst typical Hollywood leftist guys who continually trot out stilted entertainment to their liking.....

ironically his Jewishness which usually at least in Hollywood lends itself to promoting anti-pluralist leftism is what nudged him

his fear for Israel.

granted it does reek a bit of ‘well, worrying about Israel’s future is more important to me than my former propensity to destroy America”

but I’ll take it

we need all the help out there we can get

he has a handsome wife though..

PS:...he also pit fights...pretty John Wayne for a 60 year old


33 posted on 10/06/2008 9:03:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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A very interesting piece. Mamet obviously still suffers from Bush Derangement Syndrome, but at least he’s beginning to get at some of the real issues. Interesting that he likes Thomas Sowell so much.


37 posted on 10/06/2008 9:15:25 AM PDT by livius
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We were riding along and listening to NPR. I felt my facial muscles tightening, and the words beginning to form in my mind: Shut the fuck up.


Those words formed as soon as I heard those letters.


38 posted on 10/06/2008 9:47:55 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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A wonderful dissertation, and thanks for posting. Horowitz's conversion story is compelling, as are the stories of Sidney Hook and George Orwell. The best of these is still, IMHO, Chambers's Witness. But Mamet puts it beautifully:

...we are not and never have been the villains that some of the world and some of our citizens make us out to be, but that we are a confection of normal (greedy, lustful, duplicitous, corrupt, inspired—in short, human) individuals living under a spectacularly effective compact called the Constitution, and lucky to get it.

Too lucky in a lot of cases because it's so taken for granted that it isn't properly defended by beneficiaries who have the conceit that they can improve on it. Such as:

The Constitution, written by men with some experience of actual government, assumes that the chief executive will work to be king, the Parliament will scheme to sell off the silverware, and the judiciary will consider itself Olympian and do everything it can to much improve (destroy) the work of the other two branches. So the Constitution pits them against each other, in the attempt not to achieve stasis, but rather to allow for the constant corrections necessary to prevent one branch from getting too much power for too long.

It's organized chaos. Properly confined it is very effective if not particularly efficient. And we really oughtn't be too surprised if legislators swamp us with laws, executives with direction, and judges with pontification. That is, after all, what we pay them to do. The real problem is that so many of all three have a tendency to forget who their employers really are.

42 posted on 10/06/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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The Constitution, written by men with some experience of actual government, assumes that the chief executive will work to be king, the Parliament will scheme to sell off the silverware, and the judiciary will consider itself Olympian and do everything it can to much improve (destroy) the work of the other two branches.

So the Constitution pits them against each other, in the attempt not to achieve stasis, but rather to allow for the constant corrections necessary to prevent one branch from getting too much power for too long.

Rather brilliant. For, in the abstract, we may envision an Olympian perfection of perfect beings in Washington doing the business of their employers, the people, but any of us who has ever been at a zoning meeting with our property at stake is aware of the urge to cut through all the pernicious bullshit and go straight to firearms.

These two paragraphs I thought worth repeating. An excellant article, thanks for posting.

43 posted on 10/06/2008 12:34:05 PM PDT by Red Boots
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I love Mamet, always have. His book “True and False” is excellent. I started reading “Bambi vs. Godzillar” (about the film industry) but haven’t finished it.


45 posted on 10/06/2008 1:12:09 PM PDT by Silly
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David Mamet woke up to reality, and his article is well worth the read.


50 posted on 10/06/2008 1:57:29 PM PDT by hershey
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So apparently, the cure for the mental disorder called liberalism is.....RATIONAL THINKING.
53 posted on 10/06/2008 8:30:42 PM PDT by highlander_UW (In addition to being able to field dress a moose, Gov. Palin can field dress a donkey too!)
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PING for later reading.


54 posted on 10/07/2008 12:25:52 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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Interesting article. There is a lot of truth about a tragic view of life vs. a utopian view of life. and how this makes people see things differently. Some people have noted that liberals compare America against a hypothetical utopia, thus they find America wanting and they condemn America in absolute terms for not being perfect. On the other hand, they view America’s enemies in an idealistic way that blots out almost all problems - the Soviet Union was the wave of the future and Stalin only made a few mistakes, communism will work when the right people are put in charge, Pol Pot was an agrarian reformer, the Islamic realm is a utopia of peace and tolerance, but unfortunately it is the extreme evil of the U.S. and Israel that causes Islamists to react in an extreme way, etc.


57 posted on 10/07/2008 5:40:24 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Mamet from the Village Voice. Now a conservative. Color me stunned. Good read, thanks!


58 posted on 10/07/2008 6:17:15 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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