Posted on 10/04/2008 7:08:04 AM PDT by RogerFGay
The question whether marriage as an institution should be abolished is now being debated all over Russia with a violence and depth of passion unknown since the turbulent early days of the Revolution. Last October a bill eliminating distinctions between registered and unregistered marriages and giving the unmarried consort the status and property rights of the legal wife was introduced in the Tzik, or Central Executive Committee. So much unforeseen opposition to the proposed law developed that the Tzik decided to postpone its final adoption until the next session, meanwhile initiating a broad popular discussion of the project.
Since that time factories, offices, clubs, and various Soviet organizations and institutions have passed resolutions for and against the bill, and the halls have not been able to hold the eager crowds that thronged to the meetings in city, town, and village. One must live in Russia to-day, amid the atmosphere of torment, disgust, and disillusionment that pervades sex relations, the chaos, uncertainty, and tragedy that hover over the Russian family, to understand the reasons for this heated discussion, for these passionate pros and cons. ... cont.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
The Soviets were Godless... It seems they want to recapture those Soviet days.
“THIS ARTICLE IS DATED JULY, 1926!”
I have neither the time nor the resources to pore over every post for a “gotcha.” The date should have been mentioned prominently.
"And yet if fits well with contemporary debate on marriage in the United States. There should be no doubt at this point that the communist playbook is being followed in the United States, and the first wave of the transformation has taken place in family policy.
That's fine, Roger -- then say this in your 1st post. Don't let people run around thinking that this article is from 2008, when the article is 82 years old!
So you’re thinkin’ the Russian revolution that led to the formation of the Soviet Union happened this year?
No, but with an incendiary title like "The Russian Effort to Obliterate Marriage" with nothing to indicate that the article is 80 years old, it is extremely misleading. And while I might know the history, there are obviously several posters here who didn't read carefully enough to notice the date!
Clue: Don't assume that every poster or lurker is going to read every word of an article -- or in many cases, even read the article at all-- before making assumptions and comments on the subject. It's those of us who DID read it that are commenting on the fact that the date should have been more prominent -- especially to illustrate "the similarities between the state of marriage the US and that of 1926 Communist Russia", you say was your major point.
There are people who comment just because they like to comment on the topic and discuss it. I’m not trying to control that. People obviously enjoy doing it and it’s not my thing to try to control everybody else’s behavior. They often jump in to participate in discussion on the topic without actually reading the related article. I guess if you want to get everyone’s cell phone number and call them to make sure they understand each article they’re posting too, go ahead. It’s just not my thing. Anyway - glad you weren’t mislead or confused by the posting. Bravo.
BTW: Based on click-through rates - only about 40% who click on articles at FR actually read the full articles. Some percentage post comments without reading any more than the title.
In fact, I’ve just posted one “Why McCain is Losing” - everybody’s got an opinion - it’s a popular thread - but only about 25% are clicking through to read the article.
Wisconsin went so far in emulating the Russians as to take their Child Support Guidelines directly from a Russian welfare plan.
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You may well have uncovered it to the general public but just for the record, you didn't uncover it to me. My husband found it in the UW-Madison Law Library in early 1987 when he was going through his long, long divorce from his first wife. He pointed it out to me and we were both flabbergasted. That was in the days before personal computers and the internet and even then, valuable information was out there for the public to find if they just wanted to make the effort. Just think what more could be done today with the advantages of PC's and the internet if more people were willing to do the hard research work. Unfortunately not many are. Thanks, anyway, Roger.
Sounds like that specific evidence he uncovered might be interesting to share publically. Are there documents / copies still available?
The book my husband found that information in is probably still in the UW-Madison Law Library but the copies he made of it are long gone now.
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