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An Unhealthy Debate: Obama and Biden’s health-care deceptions.
National Review ^ | October 3, 2008 | Yuval Levin

Posted on 10/04/2008 3:55:59 AM PDT by Delacon

The rule of thumb for fact checkers of Thursday night’s vice-presidential debate was that every time Joe Biden sounded especially confident, he was saying something that wasn’t true.

For the most part, these were gross exaggerations or convenient fictions aimed to allow him to make a point he couldn’t otherwise support. How to answer the charge that he and Obama voted for a budget resolution that called for taxing Americans making $42,000? Assert that John McCain voted for it too, although he didn’t. How to argue that we’re paying no attention to Afghanistan? Claim repeatedly that we spend more in Iraq in three weeks than we have spent in Afghanistan in seven years, although that’s very far from true. How to explain his vote for the Iraq war in light of his subsequent views? Say it wasn’t a war resolution, though it was. And on and on Joe went.

One set of distortions in particular, however, seemed like more than extemporaneous exaggeration. Biden offered several criticisms of John McCain’s health-care plan which tracked precisely with the line of attack the Obama campaign has taken up against the plan in recent days, and which are flatly untrue and deceptive.

The Deregulation Canard

The approach involved two basic elements. First, after (somehow) implicitly attributing the current financial crisis to deregulation, Biden argued that McCain wants to do the same thing to the health care sector and so presumably send it into a similar crisis. “As a matter of fact,” Biden said, “John recently wrote an article in a major magazine saying that he wants to do for the health-care industry deregulate it and let the free market move like he did for the banking industry.” The same argument is advanced in a new Obama campaign commercial. Over images of Fannie and Freddie logos, the ad asserts that McCain wants to do to health care what “Bush/McCain policies have done to our economy,” by which they mean deregulation. The ad says:
McCain just published an article praising Wall Street deregulation; said he'd reduce oversight of the health insurance industry too, "just as we have done over the last decade in banking.”

The line they quote comes from an article by John McCain (i.e by his campaign) about the McCain health plan in the latest issue of Contingencies magazine. In a passage arguing for more competition to lower the cost of health insurance, McCain writes:

I would also allow individuals to choose to purchase health insurance across state lines, when they can find more affordable and attractive products elsewhere that they prefer. Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation. Consumer-friendly insurance policies will be more available and affordable when there is greater competition among insurers on a level playing field.

The Obama ad of course doesn’t quote all of that, but merely suggests McCain is endorsing some supposed deregulation of Wall Street. In fact, McCain is very plainly talking about the Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking Act, passed in 1994, which permitted banks to establish branches nationwide by eliminating the requirement for separate subsidiaries in each state and the prohibition against banks accepting deposits from customers out of their home states. This very sensible reform updated a 1956 law to modernize American banking, and there is simply no question it has been successful and useful. It passed the Senate 94 to 4, and Sen. Biden voted for it.

That important act of deregulation had exactly nothing whatsoever to do with the economic crisis we now face, and on the contrary has contributed to American prosperity and competitiveness. The Obama campaign could raise questions about how close an analogy there might be to that law in allowing health insurers, like banks, to work across state lines. But the tack they have actually taken — accepting the analogy and asserting it reflects poorly on McCain’s plan — is either dishonest or ignorant. Either way, it makes no sense.



The Tax Distortion
The second leg of the Obama-Biden critique is directed at McCain’s proposal to provide a tax credit to individuals and families for the purchase of health insurance while counting employer-based coverage as taxable income. Biden himself was the first to launch this particular charge. At a rally in Pennsylvania on September 18, Biden told the assembled audience that John McCain, through his health-care plan, is:

proposing the largest increase on middle class taxpayers in American history....It will cost the middle class over one trillion dollars in additional taxes. So ladies and gentlemen it’s almost unbelievable, you almost don’t believe what I’m telling you, because it sounds so wrong.

It does sound wrong, because it is. The Washington Post a few days later described Biden’s claim as a “fabrication,” explaining that McCain’s plan takes the existing tax break for employer-purchased health coverage and gives it to individuals as a credit to use in purchasing health insurance they select — whether they get their insurance through their employer or not. The plan doesn’t provide the tax benefit twice — before and after the employer purchases coverage — but once, the way it is provided today. The difference is that individuals get the benefit as individuals, rather than through their employer’s payroll, and regardless of how they purchase their health insurance. It’s true that this means more taxable income, but the amount of additional taxes paid on that income would be made up for and then some by the tax credit itself. The Post quotes Eric Toder of the non-partisan (if slightly left-leaning) Tax Policy Center saying “It is not fair to pull out just one part of the McCain proposal. It is a package. They are giving back more than they are taking away.”

In fact, as the Post further noted,

By most independent calculations, the McCain plan will leave most taxpayers better off in strictly financial terms, at least until 2013. After 2013, the benefits will begin to diminish. By 2018, taxpayers in the top quintile will be slightly worse off, but middle-income taxpayers will either break even or be slightly ahead.

More importantly, they will have more reliable, affordable, and portable health coverage as well. In Thursday’s debate, Biden added an even more deceptive element to his earlier fabrication. He said:

Now, with regard to the — to the health care plan, you know, it's with one hand you giveth, the other you take it. You know how Barack Obama — excuse me, do you know how John McCain pays for his $5,000 tax credit you're going to get, a family will get? He taxes as income every one of you out there, every one of you listening who has a health care plan through your employer. That's how he raises $3.6 trillion, on your — taxing your health care benefit to give you a $5,000 plan, which his Web site points out will go straight to the insurance company. And then you're going to have to replace a $12,000 — that's the average cost of the plan you get through your employer — it costs $12,000. You're going to have to pay — replace a $12,000 plan, because 20 million of you are going to be dropped. Twenty million of you will be dropped. So you're going to have to place — replace a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check you just give to the insurance company. I call that the "Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere."

The beginning portion of this mass of confusion is simply the same false claim he had made in Pennsylvania in September: implying the plan results in a net tax when it actually results in a net credit. On Friday, the Obama campaign even echoed this assertion with a new television ad showing Biden making this claim in the debate. The ad, like the claim, is patently dishonest.

Biden then argues that it’s problematic that the tax credit McCain offers could go directly to the insurance company to pay for health coverage. Yet another dishonest new Obama ad on Friday made the same point too (while yet again repeating out of context the misleading point about taxing health-care benefits). But what exactly is the problem? Offering the option of having the money go directly to an insurer of your choice is a simple convenience — it doesn’t mean the money doesn’t belong to the individual taxpayer. And as the McCain plan makes clear, Americans with insurance coverage that costs them less than their new tax credit can deposit the remainder in a Health Savings Account for future needs.

The notion that Americans would need to “replace a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check,” meanwhile, ignores the simple fact that the money employers now spend on employees’ insurance belongs to the employees. It is a part of your wages that you never see. If it wasn’t spent on health care by your employer but was given to you as cash wages, you would not be replacing a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check, but rather with something approaching $12,000 in additional income and that $5,000 check. You would pay income taxes on that additional $12,000, but what you would pay would be less than the extra $5,000, so, again, nearly all taxpayers (except those at the very top of the income scale) would come out ahead.

And finally Biden asserts that 20 million people are going to be “dropped” from their insurance coverage under McCain’s plan. It’s hard to be sure just what he has in mind, but it may well be a distortion of the Tax Policy Center’s analysis of the plan, which says that under the McCain plan about 20 million people would move into the individual insurance market by 2018 (since the plan would make it much more appealing), but does not distinguish between those who would do so by choice to pursue coverage that better suits their health and economic needs and those who would do so because they were “dropped” by their employer. Either way, people would not find themselves in the position Biden describes, since he leaves the effect on net wages out of his description entirely.

Distorting the Health-Care Debate

There is no question that part of the aim of the McCain plan is to build a more functional non-group insurance market so as to slowly and gradually sever the link between employment and insurance. That would help make health insurance more portable and reliable, and allow people to feel secure about their coverage regardless of changes in their employment and their lives. The insecurity of employer-provided coverage is one of the chief problems bedeviling American health care and the middle class, and McCain’s proposal would help address it without creating a powerful incentive to push people into government run insurance — as Obama’s plan would do. Biden’s deceptive description notwithstanding, that is an important part of the appeal of the plan, from the point of view of both the average American family, and the broader American economy.

Under the McCain plan, workers would get more cash wages, a federal tax credit, and control over their health insurance that would make it more affordable, portable, and reliable. Giving a tax break to individuals and families, rather than through their employers’ payroll, is one crucial element of that approach. Fostering more competition to lower costs and improve quality is another. The Obama campaign’s new lines of attack against the plan don’t argue otherwise. They just employ crude fictions and distortions to confuse the issue.

 —  Yuval Levin is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and senior editor of The New Atlantis. His new book Imagining the Future: Science and American Democracy, will be published later this month.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; debate; healthcare; issues; obama
Under the McCain plan, workers would get more cash wages, a federal tax credit, and control over their health insurance that would make it more affordable, portable, and reliable. Giving a tax break to individuals and families, rather than through their employers’ payroll, is one crucial element of that approach. Fostering more competition to lower costs and improve quality is another. The Obama campaign’s new lines of attack against the plan don’t argue otherwise. They just employ crude fictions and distortions to confuse the issue.

1 posted on 10/04/2008 3:55:59 AM PDT by Delacon
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To: GreyFriar

ping for later read


2 posted on 10/04/2008 3:59:03 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: Delacon
Maybe these flat-out lies about him will light a fire under McCain, but I doubt it.

The only way Obama-Biden could get McCain going is if they both changed party affiliation and became Republicans. Then McCain would feel free to tear them apart, because he could claim he wasn't being partisan.

3 posted on 10/04/2008 3:59:20 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Delacon

For someone who attended a VERY exclusive Catholic prep school in Delaware, he sure doesn’t obey many of the Ten Commandments.

We all know he is pro-murder of the unborn. Now there are Nine Commandments.

He also lies quite a bit. Now there are Eight Commandments.

Everytime he receives Communion, he mocks God. Now there are Seven Commandments.

He covets the Vice Presidency. Dwn to Six Commandments.

His body of work in the Senate is so small as to constitute taking a salary under the false pretense that it is hard work. Another one bites the dust.

His treatment of Robert Bork was morally and ethically a crime. Down to four.

He DOES honor his father and mother. Give him credit for getting one correct.

I guess he cut his religion classes and because he was such a stud sports star, the priests cut him lots of slack.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 4:29:06 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: GreyFriar
It is the Presidential race silly season. Neither candidate can enact any kind of "health care" legislation - period, end of story! It is time some real reporter called tehm on it. Our fine, laser sharp, smart, upstanding, duly elected legislature will have to do that and the President will have little or nothing to say about it.

If it was possible, it would have been done many administrations ago. If either candidate had a clue, they would be saying that they "favor" a health care package that includes... .

5 posted on 10/04/2008 4:58:40 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Delacon

I’m interested in this subject so thanks for posting. I’ll read later. Gotta go change sheets and clean bathtubs.


6 posted on 10/04/2008 5:21:12 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Delacon

Why I don’t like Obama’s health insurance scheme.

Under Obama's "pay or play" scheme, the employees most likely to be dumped into the government run insurance system are the low income people. Health insurance premiums are generally the same, whether the covered employee makes $15,000 per year or $150,000 per year. So, a law firm or a medical practice with 10 employees would pay the about same amount for its private insurance as a Taco Bell or a McDonalds with 10 employees. Under the Obama scheme, companies with low average employee pay would be incentivized to dump their private coverage, while companies with a high average employee pay would most likely keep private coverage. Even so, some companies with a higher average employee pay might choose to dump their private plans in favor of the government coverage simply to avoid the administrative costs of a private insurance plan.

The Obama scheme will have the immediate effect of creating a two-tier system, quality private insurance for the wealthy and mediocre government coverage for the poor.

In the long term, more and more people would be forced from the private plans to the government coverage. Here is why. Younger employees with less experience tend to be low paid – they would therefore most likely have government coverage. Once in the “free” system, they would be unlikely to opt into a private plan as their income increases. As time goes by, the private insurance firms would be forced to raise their premiums – they could no longer rely upon the younger and generally healthier employees to balance their costs. Eventually, the private plans would also be eliminated, forcing everyone into the mediocre government health care program – that is until it goes bankrupt!

Furthermore, since the Obama scheme calculates "pay or play" by using wages and salaries, it will create a disincentive for pay increases to employees and staff once they are covered by the government health insurance.

7 posted on 10/04/2008 5:54:54 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Darkwolf377; TigerLikesRooster; Travis McGee; M. Espinola
I see health care as a no-win-issue for McCain. His 'reforms' are mostly window dressing. There are about 47 million Americans without medical care. How many of these people vote ___________ ?

Obama is exaggerating and lying but voters are not fact checkers. This will be a very close election. Do the numbers yourself.

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop, are you? I'm thinking primarily in terms of wide-ranging foreign attacks on our stock market. The prime suspects: Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, Syria, and OPEC nations. Rumors abound on the Internet about the October Surprise: i.e., new terror attacks, angry street demonstrations, covert operations and martial law preparations. 'Nuff said.

8 posted on 10/04/2008 6:37:45 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Delacon
A couple of weeks ago I sat in on a focus group where I reviewed political ads. My group was (sarc) "blessed" by having to review Obama ads, including one on health care.

In all the ads except 1, Obama articulate McCain positions, be they true or lies, and then blasted them. Only once did Obama say anything about his own plans, but the plans were up in the clouds without any specificity. In the case of health care, Obama said McCain would tax folks on their health care, thereby raising taxes and only give a $5,000 tax credit that would go directly to the insurance companies.

Our group, with a little help from an unnamed freeper, thought about it. Health care for an individual or family would run between $12K and $20K a year. If in the 25% tax bracket, then the $5K tax credit pays for the taxes and probably then some. We also realized that by taking the cost burden off of the shoulders of small businesses, more would offer group plans to their employers. We said it was an effective ad, and would cause us to vote McCain.

9 posted on 10/04/2008 6:49:56 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: NTHockey

I’m convinced there’s something lose “up there”. The man comes up with stuff that blows my mind. It’s like there’s no signal getting from his brain to his mouth.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 10:28:26 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

>>I’m convinced there’s something lose “up there”. The man comes up with stuff that blows my mind. It’s like there’s no signal getting from his brain to his mouth.<<

There is no connection between brain and mouth, just an enormous cavity. BUT, he IS the smartest man in the Senate. Just ask him, he will tell you.


11 posted on 10/04/2008 2:09:05 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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12 posted on 10/04/2008 6:06:51 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: ex-Texan

It would be very interesting if the upcoming October surprise happened just as October was ending, just in time for election day.


13 posted on 10/05/2008 5:13:17 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: NTHockey

“His treatment of Robert Bork was morally and ethically a crime. Down to four.”

Bearing false witness right? Shoot he does that daily against McCain.


14 posted on 10/05/2008 9:31:20 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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