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1 posted on 10/03/2008 3:00:15 PM PDT by mathprof
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Can anything he done to counter this?


2 posted on 10/03/2008 3:01:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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We can just hope voters don’t base their votes on these slanted polls. Americans are smarted than this...right?

Watch these bogus polls get a hell of a lot tighter the week before the election.


6 posted on 10/03/2008 3:05:07 PM PDT by CycloneGOP
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I’m shocked, SHOCKED that poll-cookin’ takes place in these media establishments.


7 posted on 10/03/2008 3:06:44 PM PDT by kesg
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One more time: The Dems must have abysmal internal polling, starting last Saturday.
8 posted on 10/03/2008 3:07:36 PM PDT by Cedric
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Let me tell you, if McCain pulls this off amidst these same types of “numbers”, then this will be the political story of the generation. We all know that the media is in the tank for Obama, but, this would show a complete, conscious, and orchestrated effort to propagandize in an especially insisious way.


9 posted on 10/03/2008 3:07:50 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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According to their statement of methodology they did not norm for partisan advantage, so the change in R vs. D was was in the responses they received, not anything they did after those responses were received. That is SOP for most pollsters. Few weight for partisan advantage.


12 posted on 10/03/2008 3:13:25 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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13 posted on 10/03/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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my feeling is that polls are often wrong....polls can be skewed easily....and poll numbers are realeased for a reason....

look...it would take just a few votes to swing some states....our Rat gov "won" by 123 votes after recounting three times....

a landslide is possible for bamey hussein....its equally possible for MAC AND SARAH to have a landslide.... take the usual states and add a penn or a minn or a wash. or even a wisconsin...

I'm believing that Mac and Sarah have the edge....

14 posted on 10/03/2008 3:16:08 PM PDT by cherry ( I WILL NOT BE SHOVELING SH*T IN LOUISIANA!)
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This is almost the identical kind of environment that existed when Harry Truman ran against Thomas Dewey.

Truman was considered, by the press who despised him, as unable to ever win the election. These polls, etc are all designed by TODAY's media to convince YOU the VOTER on a reality that isn't REAL.

Even though Palin is only running for VP the folks are getting the same kind of energy hit from her as they did Harry Truman back then. I believe Truman upset Dewey in the 1948 Presidential election.

Truman had actually been President as he filled out FDR's term after FDR died in office in 1945. When he ran for a 2nd term in 1948 it was so slanted by the media toward Dewey that NO ONE gave Truman a whiskers chance of winning.

The VOTER SHOWED in 1948 that it was all HOT AIR.

I predict we will see the same in 2008.

This also happened to Reagan who showed many of the same attributes as Palin. He was able to transcend the media and spoke directly to the people.

She does the same.

15 posted on 10/03/2008 3:18:56 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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Are you sure this wasn’t at a local UU, UCC or UM church basement?


16 posted on 10/03/2008 3:19:24 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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Um, what about state-by-state polls?


17 posted on 10/03/2008 3:20:23 PM PDT by dr_who
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I've been posting this quite a bit lately, so please forgive me, those of you who have already seen it. It's apropos here:

What I want to know is why McCain went from a position of strength to a position of weakness in two weeks.

Actually, it's only in a few days -- just since the debate. The media realized that McCain impressed a lot of people, and looked Presidential, while Obama just sort of flailed around. They had to get busy planting articles critical of McCain (they knew the hyper-conservatives would swallow that bait, they always do), and propping up Obama. Their hired pollsters followed suit, either by changing their sampling or just plain making it up. There was absolutely no logical reason for McCain to lose support between Friday night's debate and Monday, when the "falling in the polls" stories began to come out.

This is the media. This is what they do. The Presidential election is one of their major advertising periods. They have to manipulate things so it's close until the end. They will print stories of the candidates rising and falling in their hired polls all the way until the last few days before the election, to keep the money rolling in.

Then, when every last dollar has been wrung from the election, they'll release their final polls, which will be as close to reality as they can get them, to keep their "reputations" secure.

The mainstream media is bleeding money. Political advertising is different from general advertising since the candidates usually must pay all money up front. Thus, political advertising gives them a cash infusion like nothing else, and they will keep it going as long as they can. Everytime they say Obama is fading, or McCain is fading, they are counting on the "fading" candidate to increase his advertising buys. They will slant their coverage toward this aim.

That is how things seem to suddenly change without reason in election campaigns. There is a reason, and it's money for the media and their pollsters. Pure and simple. Cash is king.

19 posted on 10/03/2008 3:24:24 PM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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Journalists (sic) are not interested in the facts, and have not been for awhile. The new thing is “narrative”. They have a theme or story to push.

Polls are adjusted
Transcripts are changed
Creative editing is applied

Whatever it takes.


20 posted on 10/03/2008 3:35:22 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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My principle is to not believe any polls that show McCain-Palin behind. I figure they’re all crooked and run by Commie liberals.


21 posted on 10/03/2008 3:37:31 PM PDT by FFranco
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Setting up a scenario for OBAMA supporters to cry voter fraud and RACISM if McCain wins in NOV.

IMHO if it is close and McCain squeaks it out we will be in litigation amidst race uprisings for months.

24 posted on 10/03/2008 3:43:08 PM PDT by PISANO
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Cookin' up some fantastic poll numbers!
26 posted on 10/03/2008 3:44:03 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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Let ‘em fudge the figures. We are going to stomp them at the voting booth.


27 posted on 10/03/2008 3:48:13 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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Thanks for the post - explains a lot!!

Any semblance of objectivity in the media is totally dead. Only floodlights shining on them and exposing their deceipt can help counter their disservice and propaganda.


28 posted on 10/03/2008 3:49:56 PM PDT by aquila48
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You play games with party ID, you create the illusion of an Obama lead. The MSM wants you to believe the election is over. At this point, its about depressing conservatives to the extent a McCain loss becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

29 posted on 10/03/2008 3:54:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Obama widens lead in Friday's Gallup Poll

By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

Barack Obama continued Friday to widen his lead over John McCain, pulling ahead 49-42 percent in the daily Gallup Poll. With the economy sputtering, Obama's lead could grow even bigger in the next few days

too funny they added 7% to the dem sample and surprise surprise the media spread the lie of the Obama momentum, Hilter and Stalin would be jealous of the propaganda machine the democrats have assembled

30 posted on 10/03/2008 3:56:56 PM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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