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Cooking with AP: Polls Radically Change Party Mix to Fabricate an Obama Trend
newsbusters ^ | 10/3/08 | Tom Blumer

Posted on 10/03/2008 3:00:14 PM PDT by mathprof

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To: mathprof

Damn the polls, full speed ahead!

(My apologies to any descendants of John Paul Jones)

I suspected this. Best news I have had all day.

Thanks


41 posted on 10/03/2008 5:43:54 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: mathprof

Off topic:

Small brain infarc.

We should start addressing all the msm talking heads as ‘News Readers’. That is how they are addressed in the UK. It would drive them bonkers.


42 posted on 10/03/2008 5:54:25 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: JennysCool
they knew the hyper-conservatives would swallow that bait, they always do

Wait a sec, what are you saying, that it's not smart to hand the election to 0bama by not voting for McCain?

43 posted on 10/03/2008 6:02:40 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: impeachedrapist

Some days it feels like we are beating our heads against a stone wall when it comes to polls. Same people breathlessly post the stupid polls with the sky is falling.

The number of Dems being polled in these phoney polls is mind boggling. They have way oversampled Dems compared to the number that voted in 2004 which showed up in my Oklahoma poll comparison that is off 13 points for the same time period between a local pollster who has been within 2-3 points in every election verus Rasmussen who way overpolled Dems in OK.

Wish there was a way to shout on here. I have been gone most of the day and have come to the conclusion after reading my email that too many people watch cable news and believe everything they hear. Why anyone would watch MSNBC or CNN is beyond me.

Any suggestions how to get our message across?


44 posted on 10/03/2008 7:37:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: PhiKapMom

I heard a Barack wonk the other day say they need a 14 point lead in order to win. He was basically admitting the polls were skewed left.


45 posted on 10/03/2008 7:40:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: cdga5for4

i can live with that


46 posted on 10/03/2008 7:40:09 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Alas Babylon!
I happily await their going-out-of-business sales!

I happily concur!

47 posted on 10/03/2008 7:45:06 PM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: eyedigress

WOW!

About six weeks ago I heard seven points and now 14 points? AWESOME. I also think they have a problem with Dems telling pollsters they will vote for Obama not to appear racist but would never vote for him.

One of the Ohio polls did polling in SE Ohio and no way under the sun are they going to support Obama in the privacy of the polling booth. I grew up in Ohio and my brother went to college in SE Ohio and we both agree that part of the state is not going to favor Obama.


48 posted on 10/03/2008 7:47:01 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
Any suggestions how to get our message across?

None. I've spent a lot of time putting together gobs of data on threads, and they're generally ignored. Especially when compared to a Britney Spears thread.

49 posted on 10/03/2008 7:49:44 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: PhiKapMom

I got a good (democrat) F-4 mechanic friend in AZ that was bugging me about Hillary quite a bit this year. Nothing since she lost the nomination. The dems are racists and their chickens are roosting.


50 posted on 10/03/2008 7:52:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: impeachedrapist

Do pollsters call cel numbers too, or just land lines? If they don’t call cel numbers, they are missing all those twenty-somethings out there who only have cel phones and not land lines. And if that is the case, there is a large block of voters out there who are flying under the radar.


51 posted on 10/03/2008 8:04:00 PM PDT by Melian
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To: Melian
Cell phone users and political polling: not much deviation
52 posted on 10/03/2008 8:06:46 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: eyedigress

I agree with you on that. One of the people that sent me an email asking me to report what the Obama campaign was going to do with voter fraud in northwest Ohio was a Hillary supporter from OK. How she got my name, I will never know but I passed it on and she said there is no way her and other Hillary supporters were supporting Obama. I was shocked.

She left her phone number and when I called it was legit — she was furious at the Obama people. She even declared the reason the Dems didn’t do a full roll call was because when they added in MI and FL, Hillary would have won. I have no idea but I thought it was interesting.


53 posted on 10/03/2008 8:10:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: impeachedrapist

I am not sure I agree with Pew. I would be surprised if there is not an older demographics associated with landlines then cell phones.

When I made calls for an OK Senate candidate in 2006, I would bet the average age of people I talked with was in the 50’s. In fact, I had 23 straight calls of people over 70. That list came from Aristotle which had the best lists in 2006.

Have a landline but don’t answer it — use my cell phone all the time and if I don’t know who is calling, I don’t answer it either. :)


54 posted on 10/03/2008 8:16:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: SkyPilot

I have seen more pictures of older folks registering you think they would be registered already and the man in the picture looks like he has no idea what to do. If you do not know what to do with your ballot than go home. Maybe they only tell them to vote Obama and the people will for get to vote for the other demoncats running on the ballot.


55 posted on 10/03/2008 11:13:34 PM PDT by bzybee
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