Posted on 10/03/2008 1:28:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
Talking snakes and man-swallowing fish are more believable than large portions of the liberal canon, including anthropogenic Global Warming and embryonic stem cells holding "great promise."
I’m looking forward to box office receipt numbers.
Bill Maher: Sad and Bitter Old Man Syndrome
Nuff said!
Calling him a waste of humanity is an insult to waste....
indeed...
I saw a trailer...The Jesus figure asks Bill: What if you’re wrong? Bill’s answer: “What if YOU’RE wrong...??”
Well ummm Bill, no harm no foul, but again back to the original question: What if YOU’RE wrong Bill?
It’s for eternity Bill.
I met Maher over the course of a weekend at a wedding 20 or so years ago. He was an unpleasant individual to be around, constantly making jokes at other peoples’ expense and quite taken with himself and his burgeoning celebrity status. I recall him as cruelly intelligent and sarcastic and last saw him with his face in a frisbee sized pile of cocaine.
Darwinian evolution works for me. And it's fine with me that Darwin himself had limitations on what he could understand, other scientists have come forward to advance the theories beyond what he could know or imagine. I don't hold Darwin up to the test that religious people hold their prophets, that either someone is 100% right, or 100% wrong. People know what they are capable of knowing, and others come along and expand on that.
And you know that, how?
I guess I'm presuming. Perhaps you have some evidence that apes, dogs, or even bacteria (or anything in between) have a sense that their consciousness is important enough to last beyond physical death of their bodies?
No more than you do.
Then, can you join me in the presumption that animals have no ‘souls’? Or any sense that their sentience is as important to their species as ours seems to be to us?
How the heck did they those animal interviews and why is this not in National Geographic?
I honestly do not know one way or the other. That’s why I wouldn’t presume to know one way or the other.
LOL! Care to try again? ;^)
Thanks for your reply.
I wish you felt differently because it seems life would have no real purpose and you miss out on oh so much more not knowing God. And so very depressing never having that God and Jesus to go through the bad times with you.
“What a friend we have in Jesus” is more true than an unbeliever could ever understand since that resource is not available to those unbelievers. There has to be belief and the seeking of help from above before God enters a person’s life. So, therefore, an unbeliever of course would have no physical or spiritual proof of a God.
Here is a website you could visit that you might find very interesting - www.doesgodexist.org
John Clayton was also an atheist and set about to prove the Bible wrong through his knowledge of science. The site has all kind of scientific data, articles and his personal story of what he found. I attended a seminar he gave and I have never heard more interesting explanations of the proofs of creation by science. Especially interesting to me were the odds of our world being created by the “Big Bang” theory.
How the heck did they those animal interviews and why is this not in National Geographic?
Name ANYTHING that any animal species does that indicates that it has even the slightest concept of an afterlife. Even the very earliest humans didn't leave such evidence. It was only way after people started to develop agriculture that they would bury the dead with objects. It was agriculture that let them invent religion.
And I don't presume to know one way or the other. I have the same evidence that everyone else has available, which is nothing. For people who have chosen a religion, it's all about what set of guesses that someone else has written that they choose to have faith in, because none of it is objectively verifiable. I simple choose to not go with any of them.
Interesting. I was an infant adoptee, and I wish I had a nickel for every liberal who would have aborted me, because they would have presumed my life to have no useful purpose. There are a lot of people out there who have made value judgements about the lives of others just because those lives are different from theirs.
As far as Mr. Clayton is concerned, there is nobody more honored in religion than a convert. I guess I'm a convert from being a religious person, having grown up Catholic, and spent some time in a Buddhist tradition, the Episcopal church, and finally, the Bahai faith. It's all just sets of rituals to make people feel comfortable about life's uncertainties.
Anyway, I plan to see the film to evaluate whether it's mostly Christian bashing, or to see if it treats other Western faith traditions in the same manner. I understand that this film does not take on Eastern religious traditions, but since the average American is not familiar with most of the practices of those faiths, it would not be meaningful to the target audience. I've seen a lot of well-deserved derision of Muslim practices here on FR, look up the threads on the 2012 London Olympics toilets not facing Mecca, for instance. But I find certain Orthodox Jewish practices to be equally strange, and there are Christian traditions that seem to have nothing to do with helping an omnipotent being run a universe.
I think each of us can look at any religion that is not our own, and often find great weirdness in it. The essense of comedy is to take things that happen in everyday life, point out the inherent absurdities in the situation, and let people laugh at it. I'm hoping that this is what the movie is about, and I'll be glad to come back here to give some thoughts on it.
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