[hunter112]

I'm not sure at all what happens after death, nobody's come back (as far as I reliably know) to tell us. On one hand, I figure that it would be a waste of human consciousness for all of this to go to nothing, yet, we are the only species on the planet who believe our consciousness, and its survival after death are important. Perhaps that's overestimating its worth somewhat. I guess we'll all just have to see, if there's anything to see.

Darwinian evolution works for me. And it's fine with me that Darwin himself had limitations on what he could understand, other scientists have come forward to advance the theories beyond what he could know or imagine. I don't hold Darwin up to the test that religious people hold their prophets, that either someone is 100% right, or 100% wrong. People know what they are capable of knowing, and others come along and expand on that.

[airborne]

"... we are the only species on the planet who believe our consciousness, and its survival after death are important."

And you know that, how?

[cookcounty]

" we are the only species on the planet who believe our consciousness"

How the heck did they those animal interviews and why is this not in National Geographic?

[ClancyJ]

Thanks for your reply.

I wish you felt differently because it seems life would have no real purpose and you miss out on oh so much more not knowing God. And so very depressing never having that God and Jesus to go through the bad times with you.

“What a friend we have in Jesus” is more true than an unbeliever could ever understand since that resource is not available to those unbelievers. There has to be belief and the seeking of help from above before God enters a person’s life. So, therefore, an unbeliever of course would have no physical or spiritual proof of a God.

Here is a website you could visit that you might find very interesting - www.doesgodexist.org

John Clayton was also an atheist and set about to prove the Bible wrong through his knowledge of science. The site has all kind of scientific data, articles and his personal story of what he found. I attended a seminar he gave and I have never heard more interesting explanations of the proofs of creation by science. Especially interesting to me were the odds of our world being created by the “Big Bang” theory.

[bdeaner]

...nobody's come back (as far as I reliably know) to tell us.

Actually, yes, they have. Near death experiences happen all the time, and there is a lot of evidence that has mounted up over the years. Even an entire peer-reviewed journal dedicated to the topic. Although it is very difficult to completely control for all confounding variables for naturalistic explanations -- but the research is close to achieving that.