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To: nickcarraway
“Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking,” he rants. It is a call to arms for anti-religion forces to “come out of the closet and assert themselves.”

The level of arrogance is quite incredible.

Look, I have a doctorate level education, have awards in my field of expertise, and probably have forgotten more about science than this guy ever knew. And, truth is, I started off as an agnostic leaning heavily toward atheism when I was young, but the more education I had, and the more I learned about science, and physics in particular, the more clear it became that there is a Creator. Any other conclusion is unreasonable, in my humble opinion.

I'd give anything to debate this guy.
57 posted on 10/03/2008 10:35:30 PM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner
"Look, I have a doctorate level education, ... the more education I had ... the more clear it became that there is a Creator..."

There is, as I'm sure you are aware, a strong negative correlation with level of education and religiosity. It is exactly for this reason, that anecdotes are not to be trusted.

If we were to accept your "The more I lean the more I believe" anecdote as having any weight as an argument, then a larger sample of educated people would show you to be the exception and not the rule and therefore instead offer an argument against religion and not for it.
65 posted on 10/04/2008 9:15:15 PM PDT by ndt
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To: bdeaner

You are so correct. I also refer you to the John Clayton website. doesgodexist.com.

An atheist that started out with a pad and pencil to prove the bible wrong with science. He read all the way through and found no discrepancies. Did so again, and his pad was empty.

He then started looking for a church teaching what he had read in the bible. That led him to many, many that he rejected. Then he finally found a little church with “Church” on the building, so went in and stayed. After three years he came to find out that the rest of the sign had fallen off in a storm and it was really “Church of Christ”. (not the international coc)

Anyway, his seminars on science proving the bible history are so interesting.


75 posted on 10/05/2008 1:36:50 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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