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US State Department Subpoena Denial in Obama Eligibility Suit
Jeff Schreiber @ 'America's Right' ^ | 9-3-08 | bonnieblue4me

Posted on 10/03/2008 8:51:01 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me

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To: Peerless
I have not followed this that well but to me I would think there is a procedure that needs to be followed.

1. What is his original citizenship.
2. When he moved to Indonesia did he give up that citizenship?

First question needs to be answered first, because you can not answer the second question without knowing original citizenship. Very simply if he doesn't have the citizenship he can not give up something he never had.

61 posted on 10/04/2008 1:06:06 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: bonnieblue4me

obumpa


62 posted on 10/04/2008 1:51:58 AM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: airborne
How is it that a capable liberal lawyer like you... - ROFL
63 posted on 10/04/2008 8:06:13 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Peerless
I don't know. What proof am I supposed to have?

In your snottiest possible voice you asked what proof do we have that McCain would release is birth certificate.

I showed you a copy of his unquestionably valid birth certificate that he has already released.

Most people can put those two together in their minds.

64 posted on 10/04/2008 8:36:24 AM PDT by null and void (Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
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To: Peerless

“But the AP photo of the school record from Jakarta clearly says he was born in Honolulu.”

Honolulu is where Barry Obama’s birth was REGISTERED in the United States. Kenya was where he was born.


65 posted on 10/04/2008 9:08:09 AM PDT by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: null and void
In your snottiest possible voice you asked what proof do we have that McCain would release is birth certificate.

I'm sorry, but I said no such thing.

What was being discussed was the State Department, and their refusing Berg's subpoena.

Kevmo said that if the tables were turned, they, i.e. the State Department, would have sent the information requested without delay.

I asked what proof he had of that. Not what proof he had that McCain would release his birth certificate.

66 posted on 10/04/2008 9:23:37 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: BIOCHEMKY
Honolulu is where Barry Obama’s birth was REGISTERED in the United States. Kenya was where he was born.

But the Jakarta school record says that's where he was born. Not where his birth was registered.

67 posted on 10/04/2008 9:27:59 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I have not followed this that well but to me I would think there is a procedure that needs to be followed.

1. What is his original citizenship.
2. When he moved to Indonesia did he give up that citizenship?

First question needs to be answered first, because you can not answer the second question without knowing original citizenship.

But Berg claims as a statement of fact that Obama has or had Indonesian citizenship, which makes 1 and 2 moot.

68 posted on 10/04/2008 9:36:07 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless

The paperwork you are given when you register a birth is official and I’m sure the school where he was enrolled in jakarta “thought” it was a “regular” birth certificate.
Think about it. That school had no idea what an American birth certificate would look like.

Besides, the officials at the school in Jarkarta may never even have asked to see Obama’s birth certificate. They may have only asked his mother where Obama was born and then wrote that done.


69 posted on 10/04/2008 9:42:15 AM PDT by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: Peerless
Because if the tables were turned, they’d have sent McCain’s pertinent information without haste.

“What proof do you have of this”

OK it is called character and honesty that’s the difference in the TWO BTW where EXACTLY are Ole Hussein’s LSAT and this vaunted collage work located ?

70 posted on 10/04/2008 9:51:07 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: BIOCHEMKY
The paperwork you are given when you register a birth is official and I’m sure the school where he was enrolled in jakarta “thought” it was a “regular” birth certificate.

Why wouldn't it have been a "regular" birth certificate?

Think about it. That school had no idea what an American birth certificate would look like.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that she provided a forged birth certificate?

Besides, the officials at the school in Jarkarta may never even have asked to see Obama’s birth certificate. They may have only asked his mother where Obama was born and then wrote that done.

But if he were born in Kenya, rather than Hawaii, and she was asked where he was born, why wouldn't she have said Kenya?

71 posted on 10/04/2008 10:02:39 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless
Those are Obama's statements of facts Bergs. Now that has to be done in court.

why is that a problem?

72 posted on 10/04/2008 10:17:31 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Cheetahcat
Besides, the officials at the school in Jarkarta may never even have asked to see Obama’s birth certificate. They may have only asked his mother where Obama was born and then wrote that done.

“What proof do you have of this”

OK it is called character and honesty that’s the difference in the TWO

It wasn't Obama and McCain who were being discussed in that exchange. What was being discussed was the State Department. Specifically the State Department's refusal of Berg's subpoena, which was the topic of this article.

Kevmo claimed that if the tables were turned, the State Department would have handed over the information without delay.

It was this statement that I asked what proof he had of it

It doesn't make any sense to me. The State Department is part of the executive branch, and is headed up by Condoleezza Rice, who was appointed by Bush.

So why would the State Department balk at providing information about Obama, but provide information about McCain without delay? Is the Bush administration trying to protect Obama? That doesn't seem likely.

Again, Kevmo's claim doesn't make any sense to me. Which is why I asked what proof he had to back it up.

73 posted on 10/04/2008 10:18:47 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless

When you stated the following “What proof do you have of this?” It Begged to open SO many LOCKED doors That this ACORN Nitwit has presented us with!

BTW just so we understand each other IT IS MY BUSINESS as an American this Leftist is running for president not dogcatcher!


74 posted on 10/04/2008 10:30:42 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: bonnieblue4me

HIPAA (not HIPPA) stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It was not intended to be a privacy law, although that is how it has morphed. In fact if you ask the majority of people they will tell you that the “P” stand for privacy. Two years ago, I had to print out a copy and show a hospital administrator in order to get access to my wife’s medical records because she didn’t understand what she had wrong with her and they wouldn’t talk to me.
How the “Minions of O” has used this to further their cause is appalling.


75 posted on 10/04/2008 10:33:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Those are Obama's statements of facts Bergs.

Huh?

Did you mean to say "Those are Obama's statements of facts, not Berg's"?

If so, when did Obama make any statement of fact that he is or was an Indonesian citizen? I can't recall seeing any such statement of fact from Obama.

However Berg clearly makes it a statement of fact when he says in his response to the motion to dismiss:

Even if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, he lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother re-married and moved to Indonesia with her Indonesian husband.

Now that has to be done in court.

why is that a problem?

I don't recall saying it was a problem.

I've only said that Berg's claim that Obama is or was an Indonesian citizen makes the birth certificate moot. Because it wouldn't have mattered if he were born in Hawaii or Kenya. Even Berg says this himself.

76 posted on 10/04/2008 10:34:33 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Cheetahcat
When you stated the following “What proof do you have of this?” It Begged to open SO many LOCKED doors That this ACORN Nitwit has presented us with!

When I stated "What proof do you have of this," it concerned the State Department. Not Obama.

BTW just so we understand each other IT IS MY BUSINESS as an American this Leftist is running for president not dogcatcher!

I never said it wasn't.

77 posted on 10/04/2008 10:41:06 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: bonnieblue4me

It looks likely that Wash. knows exactly what the truth is and is willing to throw us under the bus.(Like, ‘’ we know he wasn’t born here, but we ain’t gonna tell you.)


78 posted on 10/04/2008 10:43:38 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: BIOCHEMKY
I know he was born while his mother was in Kenya which means he is NOT an American citizen.

Well all you have to do is provide some proof of this and we can all go home. Whaddya got?

79 posted on 10/04/2008 10:48:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BuffaloJack
How the “Minions of O” has used this to further their cause is appalling.

So are you saying that the US State Department is among the "Minions of O"?

80 posted on 10/04/2008 10:49:04 AM PDT by Peerless
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