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Joe Biden's 14 lies tonight
The McCain campaign via Ace of Spades ^ | 10/3/2008

Posted on 10/02/2008 9:22:19 PM PDT by GVnana

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.


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KEYWORDS: 2008debates; 2008veep; biden; demlies
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1 posted on 10/02/2008 9:22:19 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

15. He screwed up on the constitution and the powers of the Vice Presidency.


2 posted on 10/02/2008 9:24:06 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: GVnana
BIDEN MADE 3 HUGE MISTAKES!!!!!!!

1. Biden the Foreign policy guru said Darfor was in CHAD!!!

2. Biden said that 100 million families would be affected by Mccain's Medical plan. There are not 100 million families in the USA.

3. Biden said that he would be "right by Obama's side" with every decision. Does Obama need a nanny?

Wonderful debate.

3 posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:21 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: GVnana
I felt Sarah was constrained by her advisors and the campaign to be too much a cheerleader tonight and not allowed to just be herself and take the dems to task. Having said that, she certainly held her own with Biden and, much more importantly, she connected with the American people much much better than Biden.

That will be the key from tonight.

Biden bloviated all over the place and will be shown to have made glaring misrepresentations on McCain's record and his own, which this thread is ample example of...and the people need to hear of it.

How irresponsible, how arrogant to throw this type of stuff out there ina national debate. .

But all of that pales in comparison to Sarah's ability, even when cheerleading for McCain, to connect with the American people in her style, in her wording, and in her demeanor.

Common Americans are naturally drawn to her. She speaks to them...speaks for them. All of the MSM attempts to the contrary, that is what she does and she McCain campaign needs to have her constalntly out in front of the people doing just that.


I'M VOTING FOR SARAH...AND SO ARE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE

4 posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GVnana

I WANT TO SEE a VIDEO of this, with the back ground music to :

LIAR LIAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq5_pEO8a8U&feature=related


5 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:01 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: GVnana
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

Speaking of which...has anyone seen actual documentation of Obama calling attention to Freddie and Fannie issues 2 years ago. I have seen it for McCain but not Obama.
6 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:17 PM PDT by Notasoccermom (.)
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To: GVnana


WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BIDEN GETS VEEP ROLE WRONG" by Stephen Dinan (October 3, 2008)

AMERICAN THINKER.com: "ARE FOREIGN DONATIONS POWERING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN?" by Rick Moran (October 2, 2008)

WorldNetDaily.com: "4 WEATHERMEN TERRORISTS DECLARE SUPPORT FOR OBAMA Call for 'grassroots effort' to help boost campaign" by Aaron Klein (October 2, 2008, 12:20 am Eastern)

ACE OF SPADES HQ - blog: "BIDEN'S 14 LIES" (October 2, 2008)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - blog: "BIDEN'S BIG LIE" (October 2, 2008)

stepping back in time...VIDEO: "YouTube Debate: Would You Meet with Iran/Syria/North Korea?" (Added July 23, 2007)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FACT CHECK: Biden's Chopper Was 'Forced Down' by Snowflakes" (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com (THE WASHINGTON TIMES): "From a Little ACORN" by Mona Charen (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "LETTING THE AL QAEDA MYTH GO UNCHALLENGED" by Seth Forman (October 2, 2008)

JIHADICA.com: ""The Painful Truth: Al-Qaeda is Losing the War in Iraq"" (October 1, 2008)

Link (pdf)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "BLACK RACISTS RECRUITED TO GUIDE THE JIHAD" by John Perazzo (October 2, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (CAMPUS WATCH): "INGRID MATTSON AND THE U.S. MUSLIM ENGAGEMENT PROJECT" (SNIPPET: "Mattson was one of the speakers at an interfaith gathering at the Democratic National Convention in August...") (October 1, 2008)

stepping back in time...JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch: "ISLAMIC LEADER URGES JEWS TO BE WARY OF CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS" (March 15, 2007)

NEWSMAX.com: "SECRET, FOREIGN MONEY FLOODS INTO OBAMA CAMPAIGN" by Kenneth R. Timmerman (September 29, 2008)

ZOMBIE.com - blog: "THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE: DOES THE FINANCIAL CRISIS HAVE ITS ORIGINS IN BERKELEY?" (September 30, 2008, 7:44 pm)

THE AMERICAN PROWLER - Special Report: "FINANCIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" by Matthew Vadum (September 29, 2008, 12:08 am)



[Post no. 2] - ARCHIVES - Topic: BIDEN & OBAMA (aka B & O) (October 1, 2008 -- Click Here.)




7 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: GVnana

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/

Test Ban Treaty
10:04 p.m.
Sen. Joseph Biden asserted that Sen. John McCain opposed the comprehensive nuclear test ban and that virtually every other Republican supported it. That is false. President Clinton never submitted the test ban for formal ratification because it faced overwhelming Republican opposition in a GOP-controlled Senate.
—Jonathan Weisman


8 posted on 10/02/2008 9:27:06 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
Yes Biden told a bunch of horse crap. What else is new? That isn't going to stop me from SINGING! 'Cause I'm so happy, I'm gonna' SING! Is there a SARAH PALIN FAN CLUB website??? I want to SIGN UP!

Well, hello, Sarah, hello Sarah, It's so nice to have you back where you belong.

You're lookin' swell, Sarah, I can tell, Sarah! You're still glowin', you're still crowin', You're still goin' strong!

We feel the room swayin', While the band's playin', One of your old favourite songs from way back when.

So ... take her wrap, soldiers, Find her an empty lap, brothers, Sarah'll never go away again, Sarah'll never go away, Sarah'll never go away from the lower 48 again!

Golly, gee, United! Find her a vacant knee, States of America! Sarah'll never go away, Sarah'll never go away, Sarah'll never go away from the lower 48, again!

9 posted on 10/02/2008 9:27:25 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: pepperhead

bkmk


10 posted on 10/02/2008 9:28:10 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: GVnana

What about that comment that Dick Cheney is the most dangerous vice president the U.S. has ever had??

Along with Dubya, I credit Mr. Cheney with keeping our country safe since 9/11. Sure wish it was him in the WH come January with Gov. Palin at his side!


11 posted on 10/02/2008 9:28:11 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative leaning toward the McCain/Palin ticket now!!)
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To: GVnana

Bump for later so I can stick it to some DUmmies.


12 posted on 10/02/2008 9:30:03 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: politicalmerc

To clarify - I thought that Biden said he had visited the refugee camps in Chad, not the camps in Darfur/Sudan.


13 posted on 10/02/2008 9:30:15 PM PDT by RandyRep (Winning is the ONLY responsible option in Iraq.)
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To: GVnana

Great list! Pass it around to all the MSM.


14 posted on 10/02/2008 9:30:59 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: GVnana

And kicking Hizballah out of Lebanon.


15 posted on 10/02/2008 9:31:52 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: politicalmerc

Placemarker ... I want to come back to this thread in a day or two ‘cause I know you’ll think of a lot more Biden gaffe-lies.


16 posted on 10/02/2008 9:32:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pillut48

Biden was throwing red meat to the leftist base - they love to hate Cheney - even when they don’t know why!


17 posted on 10/02/2008 9:32:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Sarah Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRgr9h2iO40&feature=related


18 posted on 10/02/2008 9:32:59 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: Jeff Head

Since I’m not seeing any comment on the moderator, I assume Ifill did an adequate job. Having said that, IMHO she was unethical and unprofessional in her decision to accept this assignment. She certainly should have excused herself.


19 posted on 10/02/2008 9:33:45 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Notasoccermom

“In 2006, [McCain] pushed for stronger regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while Mr. Obama was strangely silent.” Washington Post 9/19/2008


20 posted on 10/02/2008 9:34:12 PM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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