L.A.Times: Conservatives Should Stop Complaining About Media, They Have Killed 'Truth'

publiusforum.com ^ | 10/01/08 | Warner Todd Huston

[Mobile Vulgus]

This has to rank as the all time most hypocritical piece I've yet seen featuring liberal finger waging at conservatives over their ire at the product of the leftist press. It is conservatives, you see, that have "have put the final nail in the coffin of truth," in essence killing the truth, not the left for doing its level best to eliminate the entire concept of truth. It is our fault for pointing out the liberal's efforts to destroy truth not theirs for having launched the campaign. How's THAT for spin?

The Times' Gregory Rodriguez gives us this convoluted logic in "When all truth is relative Conservatives play a dangerous game in attacking the media for bias" from September 29. In it, Rodriguez acknowledges that it is the left and our fetid universities that launched a campaign early last century to make truth relative or situational. But, instead of focusing on this illicit attack on truth, Rodriguez blames those pointing out the folly of relativity for causing what he sees as the downfall of truth. Yes, it's the watchdogs' fault, not the perpetrators!

I say, if you want truth, the truth is Rodriguez isn't mad that the truth has been harmed, he's mad that HIS "truth" has a dissenting voice against it...

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[Mobile Vulgus]

Now THIS Mexican guy has some arrogance going!!

[BooksForTheRight.com]

We all know that leftists think truth is relative, that there is your truth and my truth, and that they’re both equally valid.
Liberalism = madness

[bassmaner]

'False consciousness', anyone?

Stalinists suck.

[kittymyrib]

Mexican logic at its finest. And they believe in the chupacabra, too.

[NoLibZone]

Rotra gueez is a gay mexican.

[screaminsunshine]

Why should we? All the media does is whine and complain about conservatives. Obama is the Complainer in Chief. All he does is complain. I am complaining about these bums moochers freeloaders communists slackers and useless idiots voting the hard earned money out of my wallet to the democrats to give away.

[soupcon]

This has to rank as the all time most hypocritical piece I’ve yet seen featuring liberal finger waging...
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I’ll see your four fingers, sir, and raise you seven.

[LibertyRocks]

Oh, yeah, because Obama’s Truth Squads are the only ones who can determine what that truth is right??? What a crock!

[andy58-in-nh]

Rotra gueez is a gay mexican.

Does that make him a Taco Belle?

[Loud Mime]

The liberals continue to cite Fox News as biased, yet it is the only network that has genuine debate. Liberals and Conservatives have solo shows, they are on panels for debate; and the liberals claim it is extreme right wing bias.

This incredible manipulation of the truth comes from their souls; they have lost the ability of being objective.

[bmwcyle]

It is conservatives, you see, that have "have put the final nail in the coffin of truth,"

Projection - attributing one's own unacknowledged feelings to others; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting".

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[HammerOfTheDogs]

He may have a point...you can't kill something that's already dead.

[scooby321]

isn’t the LA Times a dead paper?

[JasonC]

The will to truth, which is still going to tempt us to many a daring exploit, that celebrated truthfulness of which all philosophers up to now have spoken with respect, what questions this will to truth has already set down before us! What strange, serious, dubious questions! There is already a long history of that — and yet it seems that this history has scarcely begun. Is it any wonder that at some point we become mistrustful, lose patience and, in our impatience, turn ourselves around, that we learn from this sphinx to ask questions for ourselves? Who is really asking us questions here? What is it in us that really wants “the truth”?

In fact, we paused for a long time before the question about the origin of this will — until we finally remained completely and utterly immobile in front of an even more fundamental question. We asked about the value of this will. Suppose we want truth. Why should we not prefer untruth? And uncertainty? Even ignorance? The problem of the value of truth stepped up before us — or were we the ones who stepped up before the problem? Who among us here is Oedipus? Who is the Sphinx?* It seems to be a tryst between questions and question marks. And could one believe that we are finally the ones to whom it seems as if the problem has never been posed up to now, as if we were the first ones to see it, to fix our eyes on it, and to dare confront it? For there is a risk involved in this — perhaps there is no greater risk.

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For us, the falsity of a judgment is still no objection to that judgment — that’s where our new way of speaking sounds perhaps most strange. The question is the extent to which it makes demands on life, sustains life, maintains the species, perhaps even creates species. And as a matter of principle we are ready to assert that the falsest judgments (to which a priori synthetic judgments belong) are the most indispensable to us, that without our allowing logical fictions to count, without a way of measuring reality against the purely invented world of the unconditional and self-identical, without a constant falsification of the world through numbers, human beings could not live — that if we managed to give up false judgments, it would amount to a renunciation of life, a denial of life.

To concede the fictional nature of the conditions of life means, of course, taking a dangerous stand against the customary feelings about value. A philosophy which dares to do that is for this reason alone already standing beyond good and evil.

Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, 1 and 4

We know who and what they are. That is all.

[Right Cal Gal]

I am always amazed when people say that Fox News is biased. I counter with Osama bin Olberman and Chrissy Matthews on MSDNC. They say that no one really watches Osama and Chrissy on MSDNC and Fox has higher ratings so it’s more biased.

So....my guess is their argument is that if no one is watching your bias...it doesn’t exist?

[Hacklehead]

Media bias? Ridiculous. Look at all those debate moderators who have written Pro-McCain books.

[Wonderama Mama]

I would cancel my subscription if I hadn’t already cancelled it years ago(along with millions of others)

[Free Vulcan]

The essence of Marxism is to always keep the light of accusation on your opponent. Even when your opponent turns it back on you, you make him the bad guy for pointing it out.

[downtownconservative]

It just serves to underline their consternation over the large numbers of us who still value our own freedom of thought.

[Old Sarge]

And The Sheep heard the words of The Media, and believed, for that is what The Sheep do.