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Bail-Out Would Help The MSM, Democrats and Liberal Activist but Not Ordinary People! (vanity)
self | 9/30/2008 | self

Posted on 09/30/2008 5:45:48 AM PDT by tobyhill

This is a naming thread since the GOP won't do it.


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KEYWORDS: bailoutvanity; yayanothervanity
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1 posted on 09/30/2008 5:45:50 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

You’re incoherent.


2 posted on 09/30/2008 5:47:57 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: tobyhill

McCain was just on Fox, he supports the bailout.


3 posted on 09/30/2008 5:48:51 AM PDT by stockpirate (If Obama wins, our right to free speech will only be perserved by our right to keep and bear arms.)
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To: wideawake

There’s an awful lot of that going around here lately.


4 posted on 09/30/2008 5:49:32 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: tobyhill

Enough with the lame vanities already!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 09/30/2008 5:52:26 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: wideawake
It's very simple, who benefits from the bail-out? GE will benefit from a bail-out and thus it helps MSNBC.
6 posted on 09/30/2008 5:53:18 AM PDT by tobyhill (Hey Politicians, you're at the mercy of the taxpayers this time!)
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To: Hugin

Just give a name of who’s to blame. Are you effected by it?


7 posted on 09/30/2008 5:55:22 AM PDT by tobyhill (Hey Politicians, you're at the mercy of the taxpayers this time!)
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To: tobyhill

1. The 2nd bill was better than the 1st, but still stinks.
2. Having not passed it will likely cause a global bank meltdown, resulting in you and your neighbors making a run on the banks within the next 2 weeks.
3. This isn’t about the DOW, as markets tend to bounce back.
4. The FDIC $100K protection is meaningless when banks, companies, and countries have no confidence in each others paper.
5. The next bill will have MORE liberal pork in it, AND it will be too late to prevent #2 above.
6. This will result in an Obama victory and then EVERYTHING will get much worse.


8 posted on 09/30/2008 5:55:24 AM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: tobyhill

GE... didn’t they just book a mega deal with Iran?


9 posted on 09/30/2008 5:55:43 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: tcostell
The public and private grammar school systems of America have collectively failed to educate their charges in the most rudimentary basics of finance and economics.

Thus there are many on FR who would never dream of making broad sweeping claims about physics, say, because they realize that they don't know enough about it to pronounce on it authoritatively.

Yet many of the same individuals have no problem dictating various financial and economic nostrums - regardless of the fact that they cannot distinguish between revenue and profit, cannot define working capital, or tell the difference between current yiled and total return.

They can't do simple division ("$85B for AIG means $425K per taxpayer!), but they can tell you what the IRR on the bailout package is.

10 posted on 09/30/2008 5:56:31 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: tcostell
The public and private grammar school systems of America have collectively failed to educate their charges in the most rudimentary basics of finance and economics.

Thus there are many on FR who would never dream of making broad sweeping claims about physics, say, because they realize that they don't know enough about it to pronounce on it authoritatively.

Yet many of the same individuals have no problem dictating various financial and economic nostrums - regardless of the fact that they cannot distinguish between revenue and profit, cannot define working capital, or tell the difference between current yield and total return.

They can't do simple division ("$85B for AIG means $425K per taxpayer!), but they can tell you what the IRR on the bailout package is.

11 posted on 09/30/2008 5:56:56 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: G Larry
This is about covering politician’s loses, nothing more, nothing less!
12 posted on 09/30/2008 5:58:01 AM PDT by tobyhill (Hey Politicians, you're at the mercy of the taxpayers this time!)
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To: tobyhill

The democrats were planing on running the passage against the republicans.

so now they are running the failure to pass.

This bailout is REALLY about the insiders saving themselves. They don’t give a poop about outside the beltway.

This is “i got mine” protection.


13 posted on 09/30/2008 5:59:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: wideawake

Ummm, I might try that simple division again.


14 posted on 09/30/2008 5:59:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: wideawake

the beltways aristocrats count on that.

If rush had a Ecconomic Education Minute, the congress critters would create legislation to create an ignorance minute.


15 posted on 09/30/2008 6:01:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tobyhill
It's very simple, who benefits from the bail-out?

Let me guess: only one corporation?

GE will benefit from a bail-out

I see. The entire bailout package is designed to benefit GE.

and thus it helps MSNBC

I see. It's all a grand conspiracy to finance a subunit of GE that has maybe one-half of one percent impact on GE's net income.

You realize that you sound exactly like a DUer who would argue that a expiration on the offshore drilling ban is all a plot to create business opportunities for Halliburton.

16 posted on 09/30/2008 6:01:49 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: tobyhill

I think Jane Seymour got a raw deal on Celebrity Dancing with the American Idols, how about you?


17 posted on 09/30/2008 6:02:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Illic Est Haud Deus)
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To: tobyhill

I go for Gingrich’s proposals:

Gingrich’s four-point plan includes: (1) suspending immediately mark to market provisions (the accounting practice of valuing a financial position in an investment at its current market price) in the hopes of stopping the downward spiral in asset values and eventually replacing it with a three year rolling average; (2) repealing immediately Sarbanes-Oxley, the 2002 accounting law Gingrich described as “an enormous drag on small business”; (3) setting the capital gains tax rate at zero “matching the Chinese and Singapore” (to encourage private capital to flood into the market picking up properties without the taxpayers being at risk); and (4) passing an “extraordinarily powerful” energy bill (”to return $500 billion a year to the American economy that are currently going overseas”).


18 posted on 09/30/2008 6:03:35 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: 9YearLurker
Ummm, I might try that simple division again.

For illustration purposes, I repeated the example of a simple division mistake that has been posted again and again on these threads.

I know 85B does not equate to 425K per person - but I am in the minority apparently.

19 posted on 09/30/2008 6:04:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
GE is just one of them that look forward to this bail-out. There are many corporations and banks that have balanced spreadsheets and don't need bailing out.
If you want to bail them out fine but I'm for free markets, sink or swim.
20 posted on 09/30/2008 6:08:42 AM PDT by tobyhill (Hey Politicians, you're at the mercy of the taxpayers this time!)
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