Posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:56 PM PDT by Dajjal
On Thursday September 24th, 2008 Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee filed a motion to dismiss the Berg vs. Obama lawsuit on the basis that the Court does not have jurisdiction because Mr. Berg "lacks standing to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for President of the United States."
Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee claim in the accompanying brief that any harm done to Mr. Berg "would adversely affect only the generalized interest of all citizens in constitutional governance" and, therefore, Mr. Berg, as an individual voter "does not have standing based on harm he would suffer." (The complete motion and brief as filed with the Court is attached below.)
Mr. Berg is preparing a response opposing the dismissal which will be presented to the Court over the next few days. At the time of filing, the Court granted preliminary standing. The Court is expected to review the Obama / DNC motion for dismissal and the Berg response quickly. The Court may hold a hearing before issuing a final ruling on standing.
The Motion for Dismissal states:
"Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6), defendants Democratic National Committee and Senator Barack Obama respectfully move the Court for an order dismissing the Complaint on the grounds that this Court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the claim asserted and that the Complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted."
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/023_Obama,%20DNC%20Motion%20to%20dismiss.pdf
Complete text of the Obama / DNC motion for dismissal and brief supporting their motion
Perhaps this is our first sip of the Newest Deal; I really fail to see how a Federal court doesn’t have juristiction over Federal election law in the first test. In the second, standing, I think any citizen would have standing if there are laws being bent or broken regarding Obama’s candidacy because it hurts everyone.
At any rate, it’s more than likely just legal BS trying to get an easy pass. I wouldn’t expect Obama’s attorneys to roll over and play dead.
“I really fail to see how a Federal court doesnt have juristiction over Federal election law in the first test.”
There is no Federal election for president- that could be why.
Yes, and we predicted that it would happen when the suit was filed.
If it contained all of the information that the forgery had, and also looked like it, too, then he would have shown it already to a neutral third party, and use that to squelch everything else.
What I don't understand is why this matter has never been brought up on the House or Senate floor
No one wants to be the first to bring it up for fear of the R word.
Philip Berg may have his faults, but he's got guts.
Re: “Alan Keyes says he is still running for president. Maybe he would join Berg’s lawsuit.”
Well, Alan (or his party) tried that - against McCain - in California. The judge tossed that case too. See http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2008cv03836/206145/39/0.pdf.
In short, the Robinson judge said: “Turning to the viability of the case at large, plaintiff has no standing to challenge Senator McCains qualifications. Plaintiff is a mere candidate hoping to become a California elector pledged to an obscure third-party candidate whose presidential prospects are theoretical at best. Plaintiff has, therefore, no greater stake in the matter than a taxpayer or voter.”
The judge then went on to explain the “proper” method for challenging the qualifications of a Presidential Candidate, pursuant to Constitution, Article 2, 3 U.S.C. 15, and Amendment 20 (See Opinion at 3-4).
The court concludes:
“It is clear that mechanisms exist under the Twelfth Amendment and 3 U.S.C. 15 for any challenge to any candidate to be ventilated when electoral votes are counted, and that the Twentieth Amendment provides guidance regarding how to proceed if a president elect shall have failed to qualify. Issues regarding qualifications for president are quintessentially suited to the foregoing process. Arguments concerning qualifications or lack thereof can be laid before the voting public before the election and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in Congress. The members of the Senate and the House of Representatives are well qualified to adjudicate any objections to ballots for allegedly unqualified candidates. Therefore, this order holds that the challenge presented by plaintiff is committed under the Constitution to the electors and the legislative branch, at least in the first instance. Judicial review if any should occur only after the electoral and Congressional processes have run their course.”
So — should be an interesting December.
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