Posted on 09/26/2008 9:59:08 PM PDT by steve0
Two strikes, Obama has 1 left before he is out. What a gaffe. If you can't remember the dead soldiers name just don't wear the bracelet, pandering politician. Where is your lapel pin now. Story about Kissinger denials will have legs for at least a day. Still a few in the drive-by media that will ask Obama and Kissinger about the real story regarding preconditions.
Keep the CHANGE.
And Jim ... it was juvenile.
And RICH! Had Obama done the right and respectful thing and referred to McCain as "Senator McCain" instead of insisting on using McCain's first-name throughout the debate, it would never have happened. Serves Obama right.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
Don’t sell the “Average Joe” short. The Average Joe in America is anything but average. McCain will get a 1-3% bump in the polls from this debate.
It required no interpretation of nuanced ideas and positions to see clearly in this debate who was a novice that clearly is well out of his element. You could discern easily from this debate that one man had studied foreign policy and that the other had lived it. Obama is the Dems version of an outsourced candidate. When you call his help line when you need him, you can tell he is reading from a troubleshooting crib sheet. When life strays away from the troubleshooting guide, he is exposed for the Post Turtle he is.
I think working in an office full of libtards have jaded my view. I certainly hope you are right. I thought McCain looked witty, intelligent, patient with an unruly child, and very presidential (and I had contemplated sitting out the Presidential election until recently!).
Groucho said something similar...some people actually live by it.
Real World Analysis: The MSM will call it a tie and spin that as a victory for The One. Even us Freepers and other political junkies will parse McCain’s performance and lament that he didn’t score a “knock out.”
Howevr, Middle America (i.e., the battleground states) will see a prepared politician who reached into his gut and spoke his mind by the end vs. a prepared politician who couldn’t even remember the name on the bracelet he was wearing. In other words, a genuine person trying to “play the game” vs. a huckster.
Ignore the polls in the next few days. McCain started slow but by the end wrapped this up.
Next debate, expect Obama to try false anger and indignation vs. McCain. Not sure if the proper response is overarching true anger or calm and cool. Am sure that the proper response is genuineness ala Palin. If McCain had the guts, he wouldn’t even prepare - just be himself. That was and will be the winning strategy. (Obama cannot be himself because America will reject a marxist anti-American empty suit.)
YouTube is owned by Google, a Cali co. Therefore,most things anti-Obama get deleted there. Go to liveleak instead...
Oh, myyyyy..... that is soooo bad. He didn’t even know the name, he had to read it off the bracelet!!!
Weird, I wasn’t actually looking at the TV screen at that moment during the live debate (was looking at my pc screen at that moment!), so although I noticed that he stumbled over the name I didn’t know until now how he had to refer to the bracelet for the name!!!
I mean, c’mon Obambi, if you’re going to pretend to care about the troops (we know you don’t, really) at least take the trouble to remember the one name you claim to care so much about with the bracelet on your wrist. Oh, that family must be ill tonight.....
Dammit Jim I’m just a doctor...
Dr. Leonard McCoy “What am I, a doctor or a moon-shuttle conductor?” (TOS: “The Corbomite Maneuver”)
“My dear girl, I’m a doctor. When I peek, it is in the line of duty.” (TOS: “Shore Leave”)
“I don’t know, Jim. This is a big ship. I’m just a country doctor.” (TOS: “The Alternative Factor”)
“Me, I’m a doctor. If I were an officer of the line...” (TOS: “A Taste of Armageddon”)
“What do you mean what sort of work? I’m a doctor.” (TOS: “This Side of Paradise”)
“I’m a doctor, not a bricklayer.” (TOS: “The Devil in the Dark”)
...to which Kirk replies, “You’re a healer, there’s a patient. That’s an order.”
“I’m a surgeon, not a psychiatrist.” (TOS: “The City on the Edge of Forever”)
This is an interesting statement since, in the episode “Court Martial”, Doctor McCoy is called as an expert witness in space psychiatry.
“I’m not a scientist or a physicist, Mr. Spock...” (TOS: “Metamorphosis”)
“Look, I’m a doctor, not an escalator.” (TOS: “Friday’s Child”)
“I’m a doctor, not a mechanic.” (TOS: “The Doomsday Machine”)
“I’m a doctor, not an engineer.” (TOS: “Mirror, Mirror”)
...to which Montgomery Scott immediately replied, “Now, you’re an engineer.”
“I’m not a magician, Spock, just an old country doctor.” (TOS: “The Deadly Years”)
“I will not peddle flesh! I’m a physician.” (TOS: “Return to Tomorrow”)
“I’m a doctor, not a coal miner.” (TOS: “The Empath”)
“I’m not a mechanic, Spock...” (TOS: “The Empa
“The Kissinger thing will be out there, but that won’t get much play outside of the next 24 hours.”
But it should get played up because it’s emblematic of Obama’s proclivity towards self-serving truth-twisting or his naivete.
That is, he either deliberately lied about what Kissinger shared with him privately OR he was too naive (or pigheaded) to understand what Kissinger was telling him. He still didn’t seem to get the HUGE difference between the U.S. president having a discussion and conducting such a dialogue with lower-level people.
It might be dicey, but I wish McCain would find a way to use the Kennedy example without infuriating the many Americans who still idolize him. I think he can do so if he started by giving Kennedy huge credit for successfully negotiating a way out of the Cuban missile crisis. But in reality, those involved later said that at the height of that crisis, the chances of thermonuclear war climbed to between 33% and 50%. As one example, the Soviets actually gave operational control of nuclear weapons to Soviet commanders in Cuba with instructions to launch if the U.S. tried to invade. Within days, this authority was withdrawn, but the Soviet commanders never got the message. Thus, this crisis literally was the most dangerous time in the history of the world (in terms of the fraction of global population at risk in an all-out nuclear exchange).
And the crisis began because Kennedy had foolishly decided to do exactly what Obama proposed: he met Khrushchev in 1961 and subsequently acknowledged “He beat the hell out of me.” Khrushchev concluded that even though the US had massive nuclear superiority in 1962, he could afford to gamble on putting missiles in Cuba since Kennedy would be too weak to respond.
I would advise everyone to sit through the debate again to gain greater insight as to how bad McCain kicked Obama butt.
“As one example, the Soviets actually gave operational control of nuclear weapons to Soviet commanders in Cuba with instructions to launch if the U.S. tried to invade. Within days, this authority was withdrawn, but the Soviet commanders never got the message. Thus, this crisis literally was the most dangerous time in the history of the world (in terms of the fraction of global population at risk in an all-out nuclear exchange).”
That’s true. I remember gasping when I first learned that the Soviets were careless enough to give tactical control of nukes to commanders on the ground. In my opinion, the only way the Cold War could have turned into a Dr. Strangelove-esque farce, as liberals love to think it was, would have been through the mistake of someone in command of a sub, plane, or gun with total control over their own warheads.
For you see, America merely invading Cuba to thwart Khrushchev would not have necessarily carried the conflict over to Berlin, and thusly on a straight line toward armageddon, as the history books like to speculate. Our nuclear arsenal would have deterred Khrushchev from escalating, just as it deterred him from keeping his missles in Cuba in historical reality. However, if nukes had blazed over Cuba, I don’t know what!
I hope that a Christian would have prayed many times over that bracelet using the soldier’s name. Also for his family that is still living with that.
Where was that in the debate? Do you remember?
It is still there and there is others just like it on youtube too.
So Obama has had this bracelet since around February 17, 2008 and he can’t remember who’s it is without looking it up.
“just as it deterred him from keeping his missles in Cuba in historical reality”
Well, the other dirty little secret of the Cuban Missile crisis is that while Kennedy-philes like to strut and say
the Soviets “blinked,” in reality Kennedy acceded to a private concession to the Soviets that was never widely publicized. We quietly removed all of our nuclear-tipped intermediate-range ballistic missiles from Turkey so that the Soviets could “save face” by viewing their removal of missiles from Cuba as being a roughly equivalent “quid-pro-quo” for a parallel action by the U.S.
In that sense, even though we admittedly avoided a thermonuclear exchange, the resolution of the crisis essentially rewarded the Soviets’ reckless behavior (since they merely had to remove missiles that had never become operational whereas we reduced forces that actually were part of our deterrent strategy to protect Europe.
While they were talking about the Middle East.
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