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Rep. Barney Frank predicts bailout deal by Sunday
AP ^ | 9/26/2008 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and DAVID ESPO

Posted on 09/26/2008 3:58:56 PM PDT by politicket

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The legislation the administration is promoting would allow the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by investors, most of them financial companies. That should make those companies more inclined to lend and lift a major weight off the national economy that is already sputtering. But a significant number of lawmakers, including many House conservatives, say they're against such heavy federal intervention.

Under their plan, the government would insure the distressed securities rather than buy them. Tax breaks would provide additional incentives to invest.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; economy
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To: politicket

Yep, they bet on repacked sh**. Buying bundles of credit card debt, was that smart? Banking on it all not going south was that smart? If you can’t take the risk, you shouldn’t place these kinds of derivative bets. Everyone was chasing the higher interest rates, the higher the rate of potential return the higher the risk. Didn’t they tell investors that?

What I know about derivatives was enough to steer me way clear of this casino regardless what the prospective returns were advertised as.

$62 trillion, that’s a whole lot of unpaid college loans. I doubt it’s anywhere near that, if it were, then how does $700 billion fix that. Maybe $5 trillion ... You know when the mortgage forecloses it isn’t worth zero, supposedly there is still a real house at the end of the mortgage, that is worth most of what the note was for.

Also, all the banks aren’t in dire straights, all the loans and mortgages didn’t forfeit, the vast majority are still being paid. At least they are according to my local friend the banker. The areas most effected locally by foreclosures seem to be those areas that have the highest illegal immigrant populations, imagine that.


41 posted on 09/26/2008 4:54:49 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: Tarpon

Why is Barney Frank being allowed to pontificate about this crisis that he played such a large part in causing? Will no one in the media question that disgusting man?


42 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:40 PM PDT by pollyg107
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To: politicket

Won’t happen by Sunday. Next week late at the earliest. Hopefully NEVER!!!


43 posted on 09/26/2008 5:06:48 PM PDT by gbs
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To: Trust but Verify

This just in: Barney Frank predicts no crisis with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (but he sure likes anything with the word “fannie” in the name).


44 posted on 09/26/2008 5:07:44 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: politicket
This problem is based on bets that were made between two party's on whether the bonds that this stuff backed would ever be paid. And there were a lot of bets. To the tune of $62 trillion dollars.

It would seem to me that a judicious, but rapid overhaul of the tax treatment of income and payments related to CDS and derivative contracts could reduce the overall risk to the economy and the Treasury. If when a CDS' payment obligation was triggered, the party asserting it was due payment was taxed on the income at that time, regardless of whether the paying party was able to make the payment, then many holders of CDS' would no doubt re-negotiate the terms of the contracts. If the tax rate was high enough, say 50% or more, I'll bet that the total number of CDS contracts in effect would drop precipitously.

45 posted on 09/26/2008 5:08:47 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Trust but Verify

[That man has GOT to go.]

He suffers from dick in mouth disease.


46 posted on 09/26/2008 5:11:37 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: Trust but Verify

[That man has GOT to go.]

He suffers from dick in mouth disease.


47 posted on 09/26/2008 5:12:44 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: EGPWS
[Busy yes but not working for the good of our country and the survival of the United States Constitution which was written in the face of tyranny and based upon personal freedom. ]
 
Yeah, that whole "Individual" thingee really gets the collectivist's panties in a bunch don't it? 
 
Surely if Barney can choose his gender identity, then the rest of us can choose behavior as Individuals too.
 
Hmmm, well I think don't feel like being assimilated by the rainbow collective hive this week.
 
 
What?  You folks don't feel like being aSSimilated into Barney's wondervogel either?
 
Well carry on then, FRiends.

48 posted on 09/26/2008 5:12:50 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: freeandfreezing
It would seem to me that a judicious, but rapid overhaul of the tax treatment of income and payments related to CDS and derivative contracts could reduce the overall risk to the economy and the Treasury. If when a CDS' payment obligation was triggered, the party asserting it was due payment was taxed on the income at that time, regardless of whether the paying party was able to make the payment, then many holders of CDS' would no doubt re-negotiate the terms of the contracts. If the tax rate was high enough, say 50% or more, I'll bet that the total number of CDS contracts in effect would drop precipitously.

That's a very interesting idea. The problem is, the bomb has gone off. It is now a question of how large the mushroom cloud will be.

Here's a great article on the Delphi bankruptcy back in 2005, and the effect that Credit Default Swaps had on that. If you understand this article, you will understand exactly what has happened in this country - and why we are about to pay the price.

The Ballooning Credit Derivatives Market: Easing Risk or Making It Worse?

49 posted on 09/26/2008 5:27:40 PM PDT by politicket (Palin-tology: (n) - The science of kicking Barack Obambi's butt!)
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To: politicket

Bawney is a disgrace to the human race. He is a devil spawn.

People who vote for him are even worse.


50 posted on 09/26/2008 5:30:07 PM PDT by dforest
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To: cups

You are so right!


51 posted on 09/26/2008 5:49:11 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: dbacks

If I posted what my husband yelled at the tv when Barney finally appeared, I would definitely be banned.


52 posted on 09/26/2008 5:55:28 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: politicket

Oh right. That is just what we really need. For these banks to run out and make billions more in bad loans.

REFORM FIRST.

JAIL THE GUILTY. ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.


53 posted on 09/26/2008 5:55:54 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: politicket

Oh right. That is just what we really need. For these banks to run out and make billions more in bad loans.

REFORM FIRST.

JAIL THE GUILTY. ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.


54 posted on 09/26/2008 5:57:18 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: politicket
hey, is this the same Barney F. that said that we were very close to an agreement on Thursday (even though the republicans in the house hadn't even seen it yet)?

My advice - don't trust Barney - he's always trying to ram something through under the cover of darkness.

55 posted on 09/26/2008 6:00:02 PM PDT by meyer (Go, Sarah, Go!!)
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To: politicket

Maybe the Treasury should change the color of the dollar to red cause we sure aren’t in the green.


56 posted on 09/26/2008 6:01:16 PM PDT by r_barton
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To: pollyg107
Will no one in the media question that disgusting man?

Of course they can't - he's gay, for cryin' out loud. That makes him special.

57 posted on 09/26/2008 6:05:14 PM PDT by meyer (Go, Sarah, Go!!)
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To: politicket
Motgage related assets = CDO's, derivatives once removed from collateral and cash flow = practically worthless.

DON'T BUY!

58 posted on 09/26/2008 7:41:03 PM PDT by jd777
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