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Say what? Obama admits dual (USA and Kenyan) citizenship??
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Posted on 09/25/2008 9:32:10 PM PDT by dascallie
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To: MindBender26
Because the birth certificate is real. Ah, if that were clear, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
'Real' in the sense that the original document we 'saw' was a badly photoshopped image with scores of tells in critcial areas. The only thing released was a computer generated image, not a paper document.
And when the pressure got too great and it was clear that this doctored image was insufficient?
A hard copy gets released to a wholly owned subsidiary of Barak's Annenberg trainers, and they say it's A-OK.
You bought it. Hook. Line. Sinker, Tackle box, and Boat.
It's as if Herman Goebbles certifying that Hitler was a nice guy is good enough for you.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:12:36 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: MindBender26
Lunacy indeed. I certainly understand the sentiment, but if BHO was in fact born in the USA then it will be nigh unto impossible to get him disqualified under some technicality. If some technicality does apply as a potential disqualifier, then it will be THAT law that will be under scrutiny for viability, NOT BHO’s compliance therewith. The Constitution uses simple and broad termiology to specify the restriction, and the legitimacy of the subordinate disqualifying law will be met with high-paid motivated lawyers arguing that the law in question is unconstitutional (and I would be inclined to agree on principle, even if that means not booting BHO).
Was BHO born in the USA? or not? That is the ONLY question which practically matters.
Whether a child, who is a US citizen, who is imputed with dual citizenship by actions of others, who does not actively rebuke that dual citizenship, who is saddled with “I didn’t ask for it, I didn’t recognize it, I didn’t renounce it because it wasn’t my choice”, must later suffer from such an issue will not be addressed in the courts. Law only goes so far as cooperation of those involved, and strings will be pulled to persuade non-cooperation regarding a technicality.
Don’t take this as me supporting BHO. It’s a matter of principle, which our opponents have a right to just as much as we do (remember, JMC’s citizenship is iffy too).
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:16:45 AM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
To: Citizen Blade; Polarik
No one has presented any evidence that what has been circulated is not genuine.No one? It seems several no ones have done just that.
Indeed one of these no ones has been threatened into silence, why do you suppose that is?
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:16:45 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: null and void
From Obama's "Fight the Smears" - - It's up there with the Obamamessiah's bogus birth certificate.
FactCheck.org Clarifies Baracks Citizenship
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
And, yes, I have it saved locally.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:17:23 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
('Typical White Person')
To: Citizen Blade
Some people, such as my future kids, will be dual citizens from birth through no actions of their own. Some people through no actions of their own were born in a foreign country.
It defies credibility that such people would be barred from the Presidency...
I suppose so.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:21:00 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: Citizen Blade
It's idiotic. Dual citizenship is perfectly legal under American law.
But Indonesia does not.
Another question is, was Barry ever an Indonesian? If you read "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog, you will see that represntatives of Obama bought up everything they could get their hands on during a visit to Indonesia in 2007. "Obama: Throwing Papua Under the Bus "
www.laotze.blogspot.com/
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:25:17 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
('Typical White Person')
To: ctdonath2
Was BHO born in the USA? or not? That is the ONLY question which practically matters. Yeah. 0bama could order that a copy of his real BC be sent to any combination of news agencies or neutral third parties for $10 each.
One wonders why he doesn't.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:29:25 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: null and void
Some people, such as my future kids, will be dual citizens from birth through no actions of their own. Some people through no actions of their own were born in a foreign country.
Of course. But the Constitution makes no mention of the issue of dual citizenship. The only issue is whether one is a natural-born citizen or a naturalized citizen. Those are the only two categories of citizen. If you do not fall into one category, then you must fall into the other.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:40:55 AM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
(What would Ronald Reagan do?)
To: Beckwith
But Indonesia does not. Other countries' laws regardinfg citizenship are irrelevant to American law. Indonesian law cannot grant or take away American citizenship from anyone.
Another question is, was Barry ever an Indonesian?
Under Indonesian law? I have no idea. Nor do I really care.
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:43:56 AM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
(What would Ronald Reagan do?)
To: Citizen Blade
There has been no legal definition of the term 'natural born citizen' since the 1790 law was superseded in 1795.
It isn't necessarily either or.
Even is something as fundamental as sex, one could assume that anyone who is not female must be male. Yet there are people born every day with both or neither sets of reproductive plumbing.
OK. Go with DNA? XY=male. XX=female.
As the Olympics have shown, some fully female women from birth are genetically male.
And what about XXY individuals? 2/3rds male, 2/3rds female?
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posted on
09/26/2008 8:51:22 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: null and void
With all respect, every time TexasDarlin gets off her hormone pills, she starts up again and some FReeper posts it all over again.
Please excuse my not getting all the real research out all over again. Please look at all the old threads on this; it's all there.
Also, please see my post on the bottom line, if there was ANYTHING to this RNC, Hillary, DNC, Biden, Edwards and everyone else would have trumpeted it months ago.
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:24:32 AM PDT
by
MindBender26
(Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
To: null and void
With all respect, every time TexasDarlin gets off her hormone pills, she starts up again and some FReeper posts it all over again.
Please excuse my not getting all the real research out all over again. Please look at all the old threads on this; it's all there.
Also, please see my post on the bottom line, if there was ANYTHING to this RNC, Hillary, DNC, Biden, Edwards and everyone else would have trumpeted it months ago.
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:24:52 AM PDT
by
MindBender26
(Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
To: null and void
>>>There has been no legal definition of the term ‘natural born citizen’ since the 1790 law was superseded in 1795.
Sorry, but incorrect.
Please see Title 8 USC sec 1401 and subsequent
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:05:19 AM PDT
by
MindBender26
(Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
To: MindBender26
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: Yeah.
The phrase in the Constitution is 'natural born citizen'. That phrase hasn't been defined since 1795.
You would allow a person of unknown parentage and nation of birth to be counted as presidential material, per section (f)?
Remarkable.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:16:32 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: null and void
You DO know that the koran says the madhi won't be born of a woman, don't you? Yes, I have known that for nearly 50 years. Several Arabs told my dad that was why they wore those baggy Arab pants: to catch him, since he wouldn't be born of a woman.
If not of a woman, then some lucky man would give birth to him, and since they don't get pregnant it would be sudden, and it would be balsphemy to drop him.
Baggy crotch to hold him; tight cuffs, so he can't slide out.
See any resemblence to d'hood's baggy style?
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:26:01 AM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
To: ApplegateRanch
and since they don't get pregnant*dismissive sniff*
Doesn't seem to stop them from trying.
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:57:17 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
To: goldstategop
He admitted it on his “fight the smears” website.
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posted on
09/26/2008 12:37:55 PM PDT
by
autumnraine
(McCain/Palin 08)
To: dascallie
we know the one posted is fraudulent with his name photoshopped over his indonesian half sister's name. Are you kidding me? She's still referencing TechDud's discredited work?
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posted on
09/26/2008 12:41:30 PM PDT
by
Polarik
("The Greater Evil")
To: null and void
I'm sorry, but I can't decide which is worse, your logic, your legal (sic) conclusions or any thoughts of an Obama presidency.
Therefore, your replies to me are blocked internally. You are zotted. You are “Null and Void”.... in so many ways.
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posted on
09/26/2008 1:14:47 PM PDT
by
MindBender26
(Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
To: MindBender26
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posted on
09/26/2008 2:02:21 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
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