Watch Obsession - the Website

https://www.watchobsession.org/ ^ | September, 2008

[Righting]

America is at War Though we would like to think differently, there really are evil people who spend all their time thinking and planning the destruction of American men, women and children. While Christians and Jews are primary targets, these very bad terrorists do not discriminate in their desire to kill and destroy anyone who does not believe as they do. For our enemy, this is a cultural war, this is a religious war, this is a necessary war. Radical, militant Muslims have declared war on America. https://www.watchobsession.org/

[do the dhue]

Thanks for posting.

[Jaxter]

I received the DVD in the mail. The 1 hour version. I’ll watch it but with me they’re preaching to the choir. After I watch it I will pass it on to some of my less enlightened friends.

[allmendream]

Maybe GGG can weigh in and tell all these people that there is no connection between terrorism and Islam, that Islamic creationists are valiantly fighting against terrorism but atheist evolutionist who are “culturally Muslim” are the “vast majority” of terrorists.

Go ahead GGG. You have the floor.

[Windflier]

Thanks for posting this. When the film “Obsession” first came out, I emailed the link to the online version to everyone I know. The film is one of the most important documentaries on the danger of Islamo-fascism ever made.

[Righting]

The same here (the same choir).

[mouse1]

Our local Milwaukee WI newspaper included the DVD. I also received one in the mail. I have not watched it yet, just have not been in the right mindset. But I do think radical islam and the islamazation of America are alive and dangerous. If anyone needs a copy, contact me.

[GodGunsGuts]

I’m waiting until they get the thread history working again, and then I will continue mopping the floor with your lame arguments.

[allmendream]

Why wait? Come on now, lets hear how there is no link between Islam and terrorism but that the “vast majority” of terrorists are Arab “Darwinists”.

[GodGunsGuts]

I never said there was no link between Islam and terrorism. I merely stated that the vast majority of terrorists are secular Communists and socialists—many of whom are branded Muslims simply because they belong to that culture. In addition, I made the claim that creationist Muslims put themselves at risk everyday, publicly denouncing Muslim terrorists as rank materialists. Both of my claims are demonstrable fact, and can be verified via multiple lines of evidence. Your inability to acknowledge that your materialist brethren are one of the driving forces behind international terrorism is a direct result of allowing yourself to be brainwashing by the Temple of Darwin cult.

[allmendream]

Vast majority of terrorists are secular?

Hmmm...

Seems that the “vast majority” of Terrorist attacks on the USA are all carried out by Islamists.

http://www.terrorisminfo.mipt.org/incidentcalendar.asp

[GodGunsGuts]

==Seems that the “vast majority” of Terrorist attacks on the USA are all carried out by Islamists

“Islamists” are well known for not being pious Muslims. They are also known as “Hanky Panky” Muslims, referring to the fact that they swear, drink alcohol, go to nudie bars, eat pork, charge interest, engage in petty theft, embezzlement, pornography, etc, etc (just like the pilots who crashed our commercial jet-liners into the WTC and the Pentagon on 9/11, and the same goes for the USS Cole bombers...many more could be listed). Indeed, a pious Muslim is forbidden by the Qu'ran from A) committing suicide, and B) from purposely killing innocent civilians. Thus the Islamists who turn themselves into bombs or otherwise intentionally blow up innocent civilians are violating Islam and cannot enter what they call paradise. And as I've been telling you over and over, when you investigate so-called Islamic suicide bombers and terrorists, they almost always turn out to be secular Communists/socialists who are ignorantly portrayed in the West as Muslim fundamentalists. As for the much smaller number of terrorists who are not Communist, and get suckered into honestly believing that Islam santions terrorism, the most logical conclusion is that some terrorist group has taken advantage of the fact that they are completely ignorant about their own religion.

[allmendream]

No true Scotsman fallacy.

The Bombers of 9/11 and the ideology behind them is well known. All one must do is listen to the man who sent them.

“Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America”
We—with God's help—call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.” Feb. 1998 - Bin Laden edict

``We are seeking to incite the (Islamic) nation to rise up to liberate its land and to (conduct) jihad (holy war) for the sake of God.” — al-Jazeera, June 1999.

“`I was never afraid of death ... As Muslims, we believe that when we die, we go to heaven. Before a battle, God sends us ... tranquility.” — Independent, 1993.

“I'm fighting so I can die a martyr and go to heaven to meet God. Our fight now is against the Americans.” — Osama bin Laden, quoted by Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper

“We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation.” - Osama bin Laden - to CNN in March 1997

” . . . For the American forces to expect anything from me personally reflects a very narrow perception. Thousands of millions of Muslims are angry. The Americans should expect reactions from the Muslim world that are proportionate to the injustice they inflict.” to Time Magazine Dec 1998

Responding to the question “are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?”

“Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank God for enabling me to do so. And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty. It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims.” Time Magazine Dec 1998

[GodGunsGuts]

==No true Scotsman fallacy.

The only thing you can say at this point is that it may be a no true Scotsman fallacy, and it may not. In the one case where I produced actually documentary evidence, it demonstrated that 71% of Hezbollah so-called “Party of God” suicide bombers were in fact secular Communist and socialist revolutionaries.

==The Bombers of 9/11 and the ideology behind them is well known. All one must do is listen to the man who sent them.

Do you consider Marxist-Leninist liberation theologians in Latin America and Africa to be Christian? Do you consider the Marxist-Leninist IRA to be Catholic?

[allmendream]

Do you not consider Al Queda Islamic? Somehow I picture Linda Richman...."Islamic Jihad is neither Islamic or Jihad .... discuss!

[GodGunsGuts]

You know, I hate to say this Allmendream, because even though you vigorously disagree with me, I once had rather high hopes for you. I really thought you were different than the Coyoteman’s of the world. But as it turns out, I was wrong. And when I'm wrong, I pride myself on being the first (or at least among the first) to admit it. So let me just say, when it comes to my first impressions of you, I was as wrong as wrong could be. And I am very sorry to say, even though I am not a trained scientist—I will most likely always be a better scientist than you.

All the best—GGG

[allmendream]

Keep up that pride in yourself GGG. You are apparently the only one.

So is Islamic Jihad neither Islamic nor Jihad? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

[VOA]

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[GodGunsGuts]

==Islamic Jihad is neither Islamic or Jihad .... discuss!

Actually, Linda is quite correct.

[allmendream]

Keep telling yourself that. I suppose you are going to tell us that Islam is a ‘Religion of Peace’ next?