Posted on 09/24/2008 10:51:34 AM PDT by SmithL
"There is a significant group of people who just won't vote for a black candidate. Period," he said.It looks like he left out a few words. Here's the corrected version:
"There is a significant group of people within the Democrat party who just won't vote for a black candidate. Period," he said.Republicans wouldn't have been voting for Obama anyway. Any loss of voters due to his skin color come from within his own party, those ever-so-tolerant dimocRATs.
Putting race aside, as democrats find impossible to do, the party of surrender would do a lot better if they didn’t nominate unelectable, marxist, racist hacks.
I know some people who will not vote nObama because of that pic alone.
Larry Elder, maybe
B. Hussein Obama, no.
“Sure we’re ready for a black president. Just not obama.”
I disagree.
The country - after 4+ decades of affirmative action, preferences, racial intimidation of Euro-Americans by the elites and media - is NOT ready for a black president. Nor WILL it be ready, for a long time, if ever.
For that long - since the early 1960’s - blacks have been moving AWAY from the concept of “integration” into greater (i.e, the white majority) society and culture, not closer towards such a goal.
Thus, we have entire generations of American blacks who have been raised since birth, and purposefully educated, that whites are historically “racist”, that blacks - even 140 years past emancipation - are still not free, that the system keeps them down, that preference programs are needed, and that they [as blacks] must remain so separate from whites that almost anything they do that could be construed as “acting white” will be met with near-universal opprobrium from other blacks.
Yes, many blacks are now out of poverty (save a growing underclass that does not seem to operate on any principles of white Western culture or mores), and perhaps even the majority have climbed up into “the middle class” in terms of income.
But - all we need to do is look at what even well-to-do blacks _think_, regarding their own identities. After all that has been done by whites, blacks still identify with other blacks FIRST, and as Americans second. Don’t believe me? Then consider for a moment a poll from North Carolina that was posted right here on FR only yesterday. In that poll, 98% - ninety-eight percent! - of blacks polled said they will vote for Obama in November. I can’t believe there are less than 2% of blacks who are “registered Republicans” in that state. But even those black Republicans will vote for Mr. Obama. Why - if for nothing else than “black first”?
The election of a black president would (will?) be a disaster for America at this time - not just a “liberal” black president like Obama, but a conservative as well. Regardless of his political persuasion, a black president will be expected [by blacks] to “take care of them first”. Any black president who does not will be attacked more furiously (especially by the sicophant media) than was Clarence Thomas. The pressure will eventually become so intense that even a black conservative will be forced to appease blacks, if only to keep the peace.
Having written that, I believe the ONLY black worthy of being elected president would be a conservative (a liberal would never qualify, because liberals do not think of themselves this way) black who ran - both publicly and in his own mind - NOT as “an African-American candidate for president” but as a conservative candidate who happened to BE black, but “acts white” in most other ways. That is to say, someone who has, through a career of accomplishments, never based any of those achievements on the notion that he was in fact black. Perhaps even someone who purposely goes out of his way to express disdain for [what we now seem to regard as] normal “black behavior”.
Someone like Thomas Sowell comes to mind, or even Clarence Thomas. I’m thinking that even I could vote for _those guys_ - precisely BECAUSE they appear to consider themselves as Americans first, with their blackness second.
But again - even a President Sowell would be hard-pressed to function given the current state of black-white relations in America. A state in which “racial dialogue”, for forty years, has consisted mostly of a harangue by one side against the other, and in which the _other side_ cannot reply frankly without being deemed “racist”. So long as this situation continues, there _is no_ “dialogue” regarding race in America, and the racial divisions and rifts that are apparent today will only grow worse, not better.
Nope.
I’m one of those who cannot vote for a black for president. Sorry.
I realize this posting goes against the grain of many others here, and that it might be so controversial as to be subject to removal by the moderators. But honest dialogue is honest dialogue.
- John
(Disclaimer: several elections ago, there was a Congressman from my district named Gary Franks. I voted for him at least once, perhaps twice. Mr. Franks was a Republican. He also happened to be black.)
That's the kind of guys who I had in mind. I was also really impressed with Alan Keyes several years ago.
My thinking was that America is ready for a black president in that the kind of generic prejudice that existed in previous generations isn't so much an issue now. Many people I know are more than capable of ignoring skin color when the rest of the qualifications are there.
No one who wants to be president should be playing the race card. If skin color is even a factor with him, that's a good indication that he's not ready. He should be as color blind to his own race as he expects other races to be towards it.
“is america ready for a black president?”
certainly; but not a black socialist president with ties to terrorists and vehemently anti-american preachers.
IMHO
NO
Is there a black candidate running??
We can just as easily (and correctly) say that B. Hussein Obama is white.
I know that political polls are ridiculed and cursed on FR, and some of them are no doubt falsified to benefit the liberal orgs who pay for them. But not all pollsters operate that way, and if you check you will find that the last few presidential elections ran reasonably close to what most of the more or less neutral and responsible pollsters were predicting immediately prior to the elections. I don't believe the 10 point plunge in the numbers for McCain-Palin over the last few days is plausible, but some other less biased polls are showing a smaller but still significant decline for the Pub pair from a week ago. I don't think there can be any doubt that we are being hurt badly by calamitous current events that are easy to blame on Bush, and by extension on McCain and Pubs in general.
The election is still weeks away and a lot could, and probably will, happen to hurt or help either side in that time. But the media's harping on this economic crisis with the implication that it's the Repub's fault is not going to let up, and unless McCain can pull an economic rabbit out of his hat in the next week or so to allay the voters fears the economic situation as interpreted by the media and Dems won't do anything but hurt his chances of winning.
I think the official standard in Louisiana during slavery days was that as little as 1/8th African ancestry could make a person eligible for slavery. They were called Octoroons, and many were fair skinned with Caucasian facial features and were accepted as whites in the north and in some instances passed as whites in the south.
But in some southern states I think there was a "one-drop" standard which made anyone with "one drop" of African blood liable to be kept in slavery. I suppose most of those "one drop" individuals were the legacy of those randy slave owners who forced their "affections" on female slaves for the previous 2-1/2 centuries.
There was even a "quadroon ballroom" where the most beautiful quadroon women were romanced in New Orleans.
Kinda brings to mind the term "Hypocrites" doesn't it?
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