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Is America ready for a black president?
Capital Times (Madison, WI) ^ | 9/24/8 | Todd Finkelmeyer

Posted on 09/24/2008 10:51:34 AM PDT by SmithL

Maybe not ...

The way Michael Lewis-Beck sees it, the numbers don't add up.

President Bush's approval rating is hovering around 29 percent. The U.S. economy is showing few signs of shaking out of its funk. And most Americans, about 64 percent, oppose the war in Iraq.

"What we know in political science is that when a country faces problems like this, the party in the White House really gets clobbered," said Lewis-Beck, a University of Iowa political scientist who designs forecast models to predict election results. "So if you look at all those numbers, Obama should win the presidential election easily."

Yet with less than six weeks to go before the Nov. 4 election, most national polls show Democratic nominee Barack Obama holding a tenuous lead over John McCain, and Lewis-Beck says there is only one explanation.

"There is a significant group of people who just won't vote for a black candidate. Period," he said.

Lewis-Beck doesn't come to this conclusion without quantification. He has been putting together forecast models since the early 1980s. His Jobs Model Forecast takes into account the president's popularity, current figures on economic growth and job creation, and the built-in incumbency advantage. And while the numbers are fluid, Lewis-Beck's forecast predicts Obama should win the presidency in a landslide by garnering about 56.6 percent of the two-party popular vote, compared to 43.4 percent for McCain, the Republican nominee.

Yet according to Pollster.com, a one-stop shop for political polls and analysis, Obama's lead is much more narrow -- 48.4 percent to 45.1 for McCain.

"People are just not really wanting to talk about this, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out -- it's looking you right in the face," said Lewis-Beck. "The economic conditions are terrible, most don't like the war, and people think Bush is one of the worst presidents we've ever had. If Obama were a white Democratic candidate, he'd be running away with this race."

Not everyone agrees, however, that race is the only factor that can explain Obama and McCain running neck and neck in the polls.

Some say Obama's overall lack of experience in national office and shortage of major legislative accomplishments is hurting his cause. Others argue that Obama's speeches, at least early on, were big on inspiring rhetoric but thin on policy substance.

McCain, meanwhile, is not only viewed by many as a respected war hero, but his campaign has done a good job of distancing itself from the blemishes of the Bush presidency.

It also must be noted that while the vast majority of forecasters correctly predicted a very close battle between President Bush and John Kerry in 2004 (Lewis-Beck's Jobs Model was off by just 1.6 percent), those same modelers, including Lewis-Beck, mostly erred in 2000 by predicting an easy Al Gore victory.

"Those who forecast outcomes try to capture systematic things -- the predictable things from one election to another," said Charles Franklin, a UW-Madison political science professor who co-developed Pollster.com. "That's where the economy and current president's ratings and all that comes into play. But because it's so hard to measure personality and issues in a consistent way from one year to the next, those things are left out of forecasts. So my point is, there are some plausible reasons why Obama might underperform the forecasts."

Most everyone agrees it would be naive to think race will play no role in the election. But, adds Franklin, "there is definitely some disagreement about how big of a role it is going to play."

Patricia Devine, a UW-Madison psychology professor, has spent nearly 25 years attempting to piece together what she calls the "prejudice puzzle."

And while her research doesn't directly answer the question of whether the United States is ready to elect a black president, it does shed some light on the topic.

"There are different ways to measure people's prejudice," said Devine. "One is in a very direct, obvious way. You ask questions. 'Are you prejudiced? Do you think blacks and whites are equal? Would you vote for a qualified black president?'

"That is at the explicit level. And what you find over time is that people have shown less prejudice when answering these types of questions on national survey data."

For example, over the past 50 years, the polling organization Gallup has asked the public, "If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be black, would you vote for that person?"

In 1958, just 37 percent told pollsters they would vote for a qualified black person to be president. By February 2007, 94 percent said they would.

To put that number in perspective, the same 2007 Gallup poll found that 95 percent would vote for a qualified Catholic; 92 percent for a qualified Jew; 88 percent for a qualified woman; 87 percent for a qualified Hispanic; 55 percent for a qualified homosexual; and 45 percent for a qualified atheist.

Somewhat surprisingly, only 57 percent said they would vote for a well-qualified person who would be 72 or older when elected, such as McCain.

"I think when these surveys were collected over time, a lot of people said, 'Sure, I could vote for a well-qualified black candidate,' " said Devine. "But they didn't ever think it would really happen in their lifetime. So, how trustworthy is that (94 percent) response? Now we're going to be put to the test."

Social scientists have known for decades that those answering polls often mislead survey takers, perhaps hoping to hide their biases.

One such example is known as the "Bradley effect," which refers to the discrepancy between voter polls and election outcomes when a white and minority candidate run against each other. The term is named for Tom Bradley, a black man who lost the 1982 California governor's race despite leading nearly every poll.

However, critics of the "Bradley effect" note that in 2006, polls correctly called a narrow defeat for Democrat Harold Ford, who is black, against white Republican Bob Corker in a Tennessee Senate race. In other words, although Ford lost, there was no discrepancy between what voters told pollsters, and how they actually voted.

Since 1998, researchers have tried to measure the difference between controlled, conscious responses to bias, and automatic, unconscious responses using the Implicit Association Test (IAT). Among other things, this experimental method flashes on a computer screen pictures of white and black faces, and positive words (such as "glorious" or "wonderful") and negative words (such as "nasty" or "awful"). As quickly as possible, test takers are asked to hit the left key if they see a white face or positive word, and the right key if they view a black face or negative word.

The subjects are then asked to switch things up, by hitting the left key if they see a black face or a positive word, and the right key for a white face or a negative word. In general, white test takers are much quicker at grouping white faces and positive words than black faces and positive words.

In fact, over the past decade, that test has generally shown that more than 80 percent of white test takers exhibit a pro-white or anti-black bias. (To take The Implicit Association Test and see how you fare, visit www.implicit.harvard.edu.)

"We all have these biases and learn these stereotypes through our socialization," said Devine. "Most have these immediate, biased reactions whether we condone them or not. So, could your conscious mind tell you to vote Obama, but unconsciously you might change your mind in the election booth? It's possible, but there is no simple answer."

And no one is willing to guess how much of a role prejudice will play in the election.

"In all the past elections, the presidential candidates have been white and male," said UW-Madison political science Professor Kathy Cramer Walsh. "So forecasting models have never had to account for race. There are some very good studies of race and candidate effects, and polls and elections at some lower levels. But this is so different. It's uncharted territory."

Dietram Scheufele, a UW-Madison professor of communications, says Obama's campaign should be prepared to answer more race-related questions as the election draws near.

"In my opinion, as we get into October and the campaigns become more negative, race will become a more open issue," said Scheufele, an expert on public opinion and politics. "For example, I believe he'll eventually have to deal with the issue of his middle name being Hussein."

Scheufele says that the younger generations are more "race-blind" than older ones.

"Age tends to play a big role in who people feel comfortable voting for. So I think if Obama can anticipate some of these race issues and say, 'Look, I'm the candidate for modern America, where everybody can come to the table and it doesn't matter what race you are,' the better off he'll be."

The question of how prejudice will play out in the presidential election became even more complicated when McCain named Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate three weeks ago.

"The interesting thing about this election now is there is a minority candidate on each ticket -- so the complexion of the election has changed," said Devine. "With McCain as old as he is and the possibility that a woman could step into the presidency, now you have to choose. A black man? A white woman?

"People had the choice between Obama and (Hillary) Clinton -- but that was among the party base. So I think it will be very interesting to see how this issue plays out. It's just one more unknown."

To be certain, there are no easy answers.

Add in the fact that many pundits and politicians don't feel comfortable commenting publicly on the topic of prejudice, and it's difficult to get a good read on how this issue will truly affect the election.

"People want to put a feel-good gloss on this thing," said Lewis-Beck. "And, of course, we'd all like to think we live in a society where race doesn't make a difference. But I don't think we do, and the data don't demonstrate that we do."


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To: Warrior Nurse
Good post.

I work with a nurse who is black....

She mentioned that one of her kids stated...."Mom, you are voting for Obama right?"

She told them "No"....the kid said "What....? He's the first black POTUS candidate. Why not?"

She said...."He's not what he seems to be".....

I told her...good for you!!

FRegards,

41 posted on 09/24/2008 11:09:14 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Deb
If it was Michael Steele, Lynn Swan or even Cowboy Troy...I’d be ready.

Or Dr. Thomas Sowell, or Dr. Walter Williams, or Dr. Condeleeza Rice...

42 posted on 09/24/2008 11:11:12 AM PDT by sima_yi (McCain / Palin 2008 Palin / Jindal 2012)
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To: SmithL
"Is America ready for a black president?"

Not the racist, sexist, Marxist, lying thief of the truth, terrorist loving obama. No way this American would ever vote for that man.

But I would be oh so proud to vote for Ken Blackwell for president 2012. Or even Michael Steel. But never that obama.

43 posted on 09/24/2008 11:11:42 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: SmithL

Black? Maybe

Red? No way.


44 posted on 09/24/2008 11:13:15 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: SmithL
Black President? Sure.

RED General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Soviet Amerika, er, President? No f***ing way.

45 posted on 09/24/2008 11:13:53 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: 1Old Pro
If Obama were a white Democratic candidate, he'd be running away with this race."

....if they told the truth, was transparent about their past,and didn't lay down ground rules before accepting a nomination.....maybe

46 posted on 09/24/2008 11:14:39 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: sima_yi

Note the Prefix DR, on your choices. Hussein doesnt even have a birth certificate..


47 posted on 09/24/2008 11:15:31 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Hussein, produce the REAL Birth Certificate!)
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To: GloriaJane
Not the racist, sexist, Marxist, lying thief of the truth, terrorist loving obama. No way this American would ever vote for that man.

Millions will though.............

48 posted on 09/24/2008 11:16:10 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: SmithL
I'd vote for this young black man.......in a heartbeat!

Why I'm A Conservative Republican

49 posted on 09/24/2008 11:17:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: SmithL

Not THIS black candidate, that’s for sure!!!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 09/24/2008 11:19:32 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Osage Orange

Anytime I see an obama supporter I think, there are none so blind as those who will not see.


51 posted on 09/24/2008 11:20:33 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: F15Eagle

Black — yes. There are several good choices.
Arab Muslim — no.


52 posted on 09/24/2008 11:20:57 AM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: SmithL
"...If Obama were a white Democratic candidate, he'd be running away with this race."

If Obama were a white Democratic candidate, he'd be John Edwards. In other words, he's too much of a lightweight to have been nominated, if not for his melanin levels. He'd have been eliminated in the primaries.

53 posted on 09/24/2008 11:25:02 AM PDT by Sloth (Pontius Pilate voted 'present'; Barrabas was community organizer.)
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To: SmithL
So I'm a racist bigot because I won't vote for the least qualified, least experienced, least capable, most liberal, most pro-abortion, most pro-sodomy, most anti-2nd Amendment, nominee of a major party in history?

I honestly don't care one whit what color Obama's skin is. But I really believe that he is a serious danger to the security of the US and to the liberties of it's people, and the only way I would ever vote for him would be if someone was holding a loaded gun to the head of my wife or one of our children.

54 posted on 09/24/2008 11:28:02 AM PDT by epow (Nobama??,...... noway, nohow, notime, nosir!!)
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To: Deb
If it was Michael Steele, Lynn Swan or even Cowboy Troy...I’d be ready.

Any of those guys would be fine with me, although I don't know anything about this Cowboy Troy person I'll take your word for him. But I would be delighted beyond words to vote for Thomas Sowell as president for life of the entire world.

55 posted on 09/24/2008 11:36:33 AM PDT by epow (Nobama??,...... noway, nohow, notime, nosir!!)
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To: rfp1234

I trust the actor who played the president on “Deep Impact” more.


56 posted on 09/24/2008 11:38:36 AM PDT by geege
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To: SmithL

Not a marxist named Obama.


57 posted on 09/24/2008 11:39:45 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: rfp1234
Pres. David Palmer on ‘24’

Heck yeah! I'd trust Sergeant Major Blaine from THE UNIT anyday! This is SNAKE DOCTOR, over.

But most this thread misses the point, although all the comments are cogent and well reasoned and passionate. The article isn't talking about conservatives. Not even neocons. This article is addressing the (pardon me, but I just gotta) unspoken shame in the Democratic Party. Their ummmmm black sheep, so to speak. Those Good Old Boys who reside in the deep south and by day are well respected upstanding bulwarks of society but turn into cross burnin' night riders on a Friday night. His ship is going to be torpedoed by white democrats.

58 posted on 09/24/2008 11:40:19 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SmithL

btt


59 posted on 09/24/2008 11:42:26 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SmithL

Maybe the question should be, “Is America ready for a muslim, Marxist president with terrorist connections?”


60 posted on 09/24/2008 11:46:02 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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