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Poll: Economic Discontent Boosts Barack Obama Over John McCain (Obama 52 , McCain 43)
ABC ^ | Sept. 24, 2008 | GARY LANGER

Posted on 09/23/2008 9:29:44 PM PDT by tlb

Democrat Takes 52-43 Lead Among Likely Voters, Erases Republican's Post-Palin Pick Gains

Barack Obama has seized the reins of economic discontent, vaulting over John McCain's convention gains by persuading voters he both better understands their economic troubles and can better address them.

In a head-to-head-match-up he's now supported by 52 percent of likely voters vs. McCain's 43 percent, the first significant advantage for either candidate among likely voters in ABC/Post polls.

Add third-party candidates Ralph Nader and Bob Barr and it's essentially the same, 51-43 percent.

The contest has shifted from a 49-47 percent McCain-Obama race immediately after the Republican convention.

McCain's bounce -- on individual issues and attributes as well as in overall preference -- is gone.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; bac; dncmedia; electionpresident; liberalmedia; mccain; mccainpalin; msmdrivebys; obama; polls
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To: tlb

Was the ABC reporter jumping up and down on his bed as he wrote this?


41 posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:27 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: tlb

a. The economy 53 39 1 4 3
b. Fixing the problems
with major financial
institutions 51 38 * 6 4
c. The war in Iraq 49 45 * 4 3
d. International affairs 48 46 0 3 3
e. The U.S. campaign
against terrorism 44 48 1 3 4
f. An unexpected major
crisis 46 47 2 2 3

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As always, the devil is in the details.

These findings totally contradict all other polls. Even in polls that are close, voters by a large marigin picked McCain on these issues.

Polls should be given the same scrutiny as “news”. When they come from a known enemy like ABC, they should be given double scrutiny, I read the whole poll, it doesn’t pass the sniff test.

The media sees the economy as an OPPORTUNITY to show Obama ahead and influence thought, in this window, expect heavily cooked polls like this.


42 posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:31 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: KoRn

I think his(McCain’s) idea of doing well is bashing the Republicans and enthroning the Democrats. Perhaps he can mention Cuomo again.


43 posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:56 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: word_warrior_bob

First numbers are Obama, second McCain.


44 posted on 09/23/2008 9:48:09 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Antoninus

Read the details, and it is amazing. Obama now has the lead on who best to handle the war in Iraq!

What is Obama’s economic plan? Raise taxes. That’s it.

If this poll is true, we are in serious trouble as a country.

With Obama as president, and a democratic congress, we will be back in the stone age in 4 years.


45 posted on 09/23/2008 9:48:14 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: GoCards
LOL.....ok I'll play....I'm taking it seriously now.....ok....still taking it seriously.....yep...very serious.....sure is serious..........................................done!

Did anything change while I was taking it seriously?

46 posted on 09/23/2008 9:49:05 PM PDT by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die!)
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To: tlb

“Democrat Takes 52-43 Lead Among DEMOCRAT Likely Voters,”

there, fixed it


47 posted on 09/23/2008 9:49:08 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: CycloneGOP
And now this outlier poll will scew the RCP national averages,but I’m sure that was their intention.

Yes it was. WaPo is a wholly owned subsidiary of the DNC.

48 posted on 09/23/2008 9:50:41 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: goldstategop
Decent people are genuinely confused about the cause of this financial nightmare. Republicans are split on the bailout solution. McCain stated that he knows nothing about economics.This may comeback to haunt. The quote may be played at the debate. If jobs, savings and homes are the issues in November (which they will be) there is no one on the ticket with real demonstrated knowledge of how to tackle finance questions.
McCain may have been a bit too maverick in his VP choice. He was repeatedly advised to pick a known finance whiz. We'll see.
49 posted on 09/23/2008 9:50:47 PM PDT by Embargo
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To: word_warrior_bob
That's right. I would say the poll is garbage. But it will be trumpeted throughout the MSM. Its not just the Democratic Party the GOP has to fight; its the media.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

50 posted on 09/23/2008 9:51:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: gswilder

BTW I will do the standard quoting procedure. Perhaps Italics will be used next time.

“11 point bounce in 2 weeks? I somehow doubt the electorate is this fickle.”

My bad it is 11 points. But as I have said this is on the Economy. I have heard, constantly, from the MSM how the Public trusts Democrats better on anything economical.

“Yes, the economic meltdown has dominated the news. But what exactly has Obama done so great to demonstrate his superior economic skills during this crisis? Nothing, NADA.”

Supposedly it doesn’t matter. Anytime something bad financially may happen and fears occur, the Party out of office will get some extra bennies. It doesn’t matter that I had no idea what Obama thought about the bail-out or that Obama has so many shady ties. I hate to tell some, but I honestly think that if there is a strategy it was to pick somebody who has ties to a domestic terrorist, a race-baiter, constant campaign staff members who have to be fired for unsavory associations or for being Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic that they may have thought of something as that might all be old news right now. Hopefully Franklin Raines and the rest will be treated just like William Ayers and the Rev. Wright were treated.

Punch on the button enough times and nobody will ignore it anymore.

“I have followed elections very closely since 1980. And polling since 2000. I have never seen polls bounce around like they are this year.

If their goal is to depress folks, it may work.”

The problem is that this sprig may vanish. I did read a poll, I also think that RCP has changed its old poll, that stated that McCain is coming back up on average. If McCain can present himself as a reformer, and crusader against corrupt practices in business and government(as he said in the Convention speech) he will probably rise up again on this level of candidate polling. It will not be easy by MSM trends but the difference is that McCain, even in Obama’s messages on earmarks, can be seen as somebody with a not-so-hypocritical economic record.


51 posted on 09/23/2008 9:52:41 PM PDT by Merta (Who is the only parental unit that California Democrats wish preserved? The Aunt(Aunt War=ANWR))
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To: CycloneGOP

Just for the fun of it, Rasmussen should come out with a poll tomorrow showing McCain 10 points ahead! LOL! The polls are all over the place anyway.


52 posted on 09/23/2008 9:52:58 PM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: gswilder

Read the details, and it is amazing. Obama now has the lead on who best to handle the war in Iraq!

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That’s the dead giveaway in the poll. Even when the polls were close, Obama was getting crushed on the Iraq and crisis issues.

It’s not a poll, it’s PROPAGANDA.


53 posted on 09/23/2008 9:53:10 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob
Agreed. I don't think the answer passes the "smell test." I find it hard to believe voters trust Obama in every category. Something isn't right here.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

54 posted on 09/23/2008 9:55:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tlb

Just for fun, I thought I’d check to see if this article had made it to the MSN News page.

Yup...it’s already up in the front page main headlines.

Unbelievable. “Bias” doesn’t do it justice.


55 posted on 09/23/2008 9:57:06 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: gswilder


Hussein's Chicago economic skills.
56 posted on 09/23/2008 9:58:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die!)
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To: tlb

Who cares, it’s a highly skewed “AB-CCCP” popular vote poll, not an electoral college poll. Whether Obambi wins NY, CA and Illinois by 10% or by 50% makes no difference.


57 posted on 09/23/2008 9:58:32 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
MSNBC is owned by the Washington Post which also owns Newsweek. By Thursday, it should be the lead in every MSM outlet.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

58 posted on 09/23/2008 9:59:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: word_warrior_bob

I truly know the MSM is biased. But the folks in the newsrooms do not do their polls. They pay some polling organization to do it. Do you really think the MSM groups go to these polling companies and say I want you to do a poll and skew the results?

Again, I am a true believer that the MSM is in the tank for Obama. But taking it to this level of conspiracy is hard for even me to believe.

When you look at poll internals, these are not what we have seen. So maybe it is an outlier. And the state polls seem to still be trending McCain’s way pretty much. And other non-polling info tend to tell us that McCain must be doing good. Why would he open 50 office in California if their internal polls were like this? The enthusiasm on the trail; the number of people showing up at rallies, all indicate McCain/Palin are doing great.

Obama is literally saying nothing. Except coming out a couple of days after McCain, and just parroting what McCain has already said. Biden is an absolute gaffe a day. He and Obama are openly arguing.

Just find this hard to believe knowing all I do about what is really going on, and where the candidates are focusing.

I read that going into the republican convention that the candidates internal polls showed McCain up by double digits. What is right?


59 posted on 09/23/2008 10:02:01 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: rfp1234
I never watch ABC. I think I'll skip the MSM for the next month. There's no use getting high blood pressure from having to read through their liberal drivel. However the election will go, I've made my peace with it. And I don't give a damn how ABC thinks I should vote!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

60 posted on 09/23/2008 10:02:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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