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Polling Methods May Tilt Obama Results, Exec Says
www.newsmax.com ^ | September 17, 2008 | Ron Kessler

Posted on 09/22/2008 5:18:34 PM PDT by Publius804

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To: tiki
And if the Pollsters are using hot suace, which they probably are, they will have blood on their hands. Showing Obama ahead, especially if they don't bring the polls back into reality in the last couple of weeks. Can you imagine the anarchy of the “stolen election” The usual blood suckers will be marching in the streets stirring discontent
41 posted on 09/22/2008 5:58:45 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Publius804

This is called the “Bradley effect”, due to some election in recent years, where that phenomenon did occur. I believe it also occured during an election for David Dinkens in NYC.


42 posted on 09/22/2008 5:59:34 PM PDT by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks, that’s what I get for skimming, LOL.


43 posted on 09/22/2008 5:59:50 PM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Publius804

Heck, thats fine with me. People always get complacent when they are ahead and supportive when they are behind. Lets milk being the underdog :)


44 posted on 09/22/2008 6:01:13 PM PDT by Jmerzio
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To: pleikumud

ding, ding ding...we have a winner!! THAT is EXACTLY why I don’t answer my phone when they call. Gallup and others have called before and I refuse to answer. IT IS NONE OF THEIR DAMN BUSINESS who I’m going to vote for!!


45 posted on 09/22/2008 6:01:58 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: longtermmemmory
I'd call it the Obama aka Black Racist Effect. I'm so sick of all this garbage of trying to shame whites into voting for this jackass. It's blacks who should be ashamed that 95% of them are voting for this clown because he is close enough to being black that he fits their bill. Black women should be the most ashamed, because they seem to be choosing blackness over femininity, besides not voting based on any issues.

“”What “effect” do they call it when 95% of black peole make their election choice ONLY based on skin color?”

46 posted on 09/22/2008 6:04:40 PM PDT by curth (No More Smears - We're Fighting Back McCain/Palin '08)
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To: detective

MSM PUBLIC polls are designed to garner ratings and candidate commercials.

Why else would ANYONE pay for a mere “registered voter” poll or just a “poll”

imagine the ratings if it was candidate X is up by 40 points...


47 posted on 09/22/2008 6:05:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CatOwner

Check the positive negative numbers on these candidates, that is a much more reliable indicator of where the candidates supports stands, especially in the state polls.


48 posted on 09/22/2008 6:20:55 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: webschooner
I first heard of this as the "Sandinista Effect." Everyone in Nicaragua told the pollsters (probably at gunpoint) that he was voting for Daniel Ortega, favorite of the communists and supported by the Dems in Congress. Ronald Reagan, of course, hated socialism, and did everything he could to get a secret ballot election, which Ortega finally agreed to.

Ortega had a huge lead in all the polls, but when the brave Nicaraguans went behind the polling curtain, they overwhelmingly threw out Ortega. Thus, The Sandinista Effect.

BTW, this is why the unions want to remove secret ballots via Card Check. As a former union member, I was "talked to" about my voting preferences. About 60% of my union voted for the Republican candidates for President, but sent in the $300 to the local to be used for access on the national scene. It was just the cost of doing business.

49 posted on 09/22/2008 6:22:42 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: PhilosopherStones

Yea, why don’t you get to it and write the article! I’ve been looking for it!


50 posted on 09/22/2008 6:28:08 PM PDT by SolitaryMan (Patriotic dissent is a luxury of those protected by better men than they.)
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To: Hattie

-if they have your phone number chances are they already know your name.


51 posted on 09/22/2008 6:32:13 PM PDT by tioga (Bring on the debates! While Obama wows the media, McCain will win over Americans.)
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To: Publius804

Don’t forget Zogby’s Special Sauce as a factor.


52 posted on 09/22/2008 6:36:16 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: SolitaryMan

All right. Tomorrow. Promise!


53 posted on 09/22/2008 6:39:23 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: WILLIALAL
Check the positive negative numbers on these candidates, that is a much more reliable indicator of where the candidates supports stands, especially in the state polls.

I haven't seen too many of those. What's the overall picture nationally and in the critical states (CO, VA, FL, OH, PA, MI, WI, MN)?

54 posted on 09/22/2008 7:11:33 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: PhilosopherStones
All of those points (outside of point #1) are find and dandy in total....but speak very little to the State of PA and/or MI - Two States which have not voted Republican in over 20 years!

Two States who have recently elected DEM Senator's (state-wide election) as well as reelected DEM Governor's (even a completely inept one by all accounts in Gramholm / MI).

As for the "bradley effect", that is nothing more than a "wish for" at this time for the Obama camp. There has never been a Black candidate at the top of the ticket before to see if this remains true.......And I do not believe at all, for one minute, that it will reach anywhere near 3-5%. Possibly 1% tops (in key States).

RCP average of polls is a quality sample (in total). Right now we are down in CO (which means we lose this election). We are also down in PA and MI.

This election will be settled by these 3/4 States. OH,CO,PA and MI. If McCain loses OH or CO he will play hell winning. That is the bottom line. Understanding the battle map and what we face is the best way to take on one's opponents.

55 posted on 09/22/2008 7:25:54 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: PhilosopherStones

;)


56 posted on 09/22/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by SolitaryMan (Patriotic dissent is a luxury of those protected by better men than they.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Part of what I call the “conservative effect”. Unlike loud-mouth liberals, our attitude in general is precisely what you said “Noneyer dayum bizness. That’s why we have secret ballots!” Also explains why exit polls are always skewed left.


57 posted on 09/22/2008 7:32:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: longtermmemmory

“Why else would ANYONE pay for a mere “registered voter” poll or just a “poll””

Registered voter polls are always more favorable to Democrats than likely voter polls are. Combine the biased poll with an upbeat story about the Democrat and a smear piece on the Republican and have a typical propaganda piece.


58 posted on 09/22/2008 7:59:47 PM PDT by detective
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To: Publius804
I was called by someone who claimed to be from one of the major polling outfits once.

Before asking about any of my opinions he started going through this long list of questions about my residence, age, etc. When he got to the question where he asked about my income, I'd had enough. For all I knew he was a burglar down the street. I hung up, and have never agreed to any pollster since then.

59 posted on 09/22/2008 8:11:23 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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