Posted on 09/22/2008 2:49:47 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Millions pouring into our borders during wartime no less is national suicide. No country can exist in this environment.
This violent invasion of millions is already undermining and compromising *every* single aspect of our system. Including our very electoral process.
I am not endorsing Obama however, I am not so delusional that I believe that VP Palin will ignore the dictates of the President by casting votes in the Senate that are contrary to the President’s policies not do I think VP Palin will visit Heads of State and commit America to policies without McCain’s approval.
You see, we have only ONE President.
I suppose the $50,000 question is what is meant by the requirement that the borders be "secure". If the borders are declared to be secure the moment there's a 3-foot picket fence along half their length, then agreeing to grant amnesty under such conditions would be all but treasonous (it would beet the common definition, but not the Constitutional one). On the other hand, if the borders would only be declared secure if it could be demonstrated that fifty years had elapsed without a single person entering illegally, then an agreement to grant amnesty under such unobtainable circumstances would be a way of playing 'Lucy football' with the Democrats.
Please name one VP in modern history that has ignored a Presidential Directive and cast a tie Breaking Vote in the Senate that was Contrary to the Wishes of the President.
Or do you actually believe that under a McCain Administration we would have an Executive Branch with the President and VP working on two contrary agendas?
Ouch. That's gonna leave a big bruise.
Palin is Conservative... she has stated that she wants secure borders and legal immigration... but illegal means illegal. She is very bright and communicates over the press directly to the America people. Yesterday in Florida, she had 60,000 seniors standing in 90 degree heat to listen to her... in a venue setup up for 20,000. It seems to me that you are the one that is in the “not understanding” mode. She is our future hope... emphasis on "future".
LLS
Yes, the VP is free to influence the President but the VP is not free to go against the President’s wishes and cast a tie breaking vote in the Senate that is not in accordance with the President’s directive.
I like Hunter. As a former San Diego resident, I was very aware of his positions. He simply didn't have the national mind share to get traction.
Add in the self-declared sanctuary city of New Haven along with Bridgeport and Hartford and the number would be well over 300,000. I haven't a clue what the total really is but it certainly is not fewer that 85,000. Do they just pull these numbers out of a hat?
I'm pretty certain Governor Palin did not sign on with John McCain so that she could become a doormat. Given that it's pretty clear that she's more popular than he is, I would expect they both realize that--were she so inclined--she could severely hurt John McCain politically. Of course, neither she nor McCain would want things to come to that, but that doesn't mean there aren't any circumstances where she might need to make a credible threat.
While previous VPs have not made such threats, at least not in recent times, that's largely because previous VPs have not been anywhere near as popular as their running mates. Palin's popularity caries with it an unprecedented level of political clout for a VP.
btt
Back in the days when the President and VP were of differing parties, I would expect it probably happened a fair amount. As for more modern times, can you name me any VP that was more popular than the running mate?
If Dan Quayle had publicly denounced GHWB for doing certain things, do you think anyone would have cared? Dan Quayle was regarded as a nobody. He was supposed to be a doormat, and it seems that he was.
By contrast, Sarah Palin is a major presence in this campaign, and has made clear that she has no intention of being a doormat. If McCain had wanted a doormat, he could have nominated one. Since he did not, he should not expect his VP to act like one.
We will see. McCain will win this election and the Democrats will hold the Senate. Within the first six months of the McCain Presidency a Stem Cell Research Bill will go to the Floor of the Senate.
When it is time to Vote the Senate Democrats will manipulate their votes so that their is a tie forcing the VP to cast the tie breaking vote in favor of Embryonic Stem Cell Research just as John McCain favors.
Here are the results:
Francisco Murillo Murder
Fidel Ruiz Serrano First Degree Murder
Vinnicio Rafael Martinez Murder
Socorro Anselmo Gutierrez Murder
Robert Otilio Montoya Attempted Murder
Gerardo Salazar Sex Trafficking of Children
Liliana Lucero Mercado Gonzalez Felonious Homicide
Francisco Javier Lopez Gonzalez Felonious Homicide
Felipe Solorio Murder En Espanol
Vinnicio Rafael Martinez Murder
Miguel Angel Hermosillio-Alcaraz Murder
Liliana Lucero Mercado Gonzalez Felonious Homicide
Edmundo Cerda-Anima Murder
Adrian Delgado-Vasquez Murder
Juan Manuel Rodriguez Murder, Attempted Murder
Diego Trejo Murder
Francisco Martinez Murder
Juan Carlos Martinez Murder
Juan Carlos Mayorga Murder
Moises Galvan-Gonzalez Murder
Eduardo Gilbert Nevarez Parole Violation; Homicide
Norberto Gonzalez-Claudio Armed Bank Robbery
Valentin Sanchez Garcia Murder
Francisco Murillo Murder
Juan Carlos Paredes Murder
Angel Saldana-Mendoza Murder
Eli Zumun Roblero Murder
Fidel Ruiz Serrano First Degree Murder
Socorro Anselmo Gutierrez Murder
Luis Moreno Contreras Murder
Oscar H. Juarez Aggravated Murder
Francisco Javier Lopez Gonzalez Felonious Homicide
Baltazar Martinez Murder
Antonio Magana Castro Murder, Attempted Murder
Manuel Benitez Murder
Claudio Gutierrez-Cruz Murder
Arnulfo Beltran-Barboza Murder
Jose Rosendo Carrillo-Padilla Aggravated Murder
Antonio Carrillo-Vera Aggravated Murder
Cesar Carlos Castaneda Capital Murder, Burglary, Aggravated Robbery
Guillermo Peralta Castaneda Murder
Luis E. Morquecho Escape
Reynaldo R. Pimienta Assault and Battery with Intent to Kill
Luis Rosado Armed Robbery
Julio Cesar Guevara-Mejia Attempted Murder
Maribel Rodriguez Vasquez Human Trafficking
Carmelo Gaytan-Salais Assault of a Federal Officer, Drug Charges
Jose Luis Trapala Vehicular Homicide
Enrico Ponzo Drug Charges; RICO
Lisbio Maria Jacinto Couto, Jr RICO; Murder
Norberto Jimenez-Rodriguez Racketeering - Violent Gangs
Juan Carlos Duran Drug Conspiracy
Ramiro Galvez-Solis Drug Conspiracy
Great way to kill the Palin infusion of votes
She might be, but as others have pointed out, unfortunately she will not be president, regardless of who is elected.
Another fact is that after being dog bit multiple times, by nearly every single politician at every level in this country...Well my confidence in government and the politicians, is all but non-existent.
If this were Duncan Hunter or a real conservative and Palin, I'd be excited. But it's not. To be honest, I feel McCain went with Palin in the hopes of bumping his numbers and him into office.
I'd like to see in the Constitution where it says that? She could. It wouldn't look good for McCain but the cheers would be heard around the country.
I would like to know where she stands on this issue
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