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To: kellynla

I think this article might go a little too far....saying that if “Obama had his way.” He is not in there aborting children himself, nor did he ever kill a baby outside of the womb. He can’t be that big on aborting babies, because he has several children himself.

The problem is, he didn’t do anything to stop the practice of allowing aborted babies to die after the abortion resulted in the birth of a still living baby. Technically, this was against the law in Illinois and the Hippocratic Oath, but apparently still happened on some occasions.

To say, however, that Mr. Obama would have killed Gianna Jensen is pretty vile.


4 posted on 09/22/2008 5:46:44 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChurtleDawg

“vile?”

I’ll tell you who is “vile”; Obama & his ilk are some of the vilest creatures on this planet.

But you keep making excuses for politicians who favor & support abortions & abortion clinics and I’ll keep exposing them for what they are, thank you.

“It’s not a choice; it’s a baby.”

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.”
P.J.O’Rourke


5 posted on 09/22/2008 5:58:44 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: ChurtleDawg

Please explain what is untrue about it. Indeed, letting a baby die IS vile. Pointing out that that is the preference, as revealed by his voting record, is NOT vile.

Yes, IF 0BAMA HAD HIS WAY, AS REVEALED BY HIS VOTING RECORD, GIANA WOULD BE DEAD.

The moonbats cannot stand for this to stand, and will do as you did, just call the accusation absurd and vile. But it’s true. The POSITION is absurd and vile, and HE HAS IT.


6 posted on 09/22/2008 6:01:22 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: ChurtleDawg
The article doesn't say "Obama would have personally aborted Gianna Jenson and if necessary, strangled her with his bare hands." That would be vile and untrue. As far as we know.

But it does say "If Barack Obama had his way, Gianna Jessen wouldn’t be here today." That's incontrovertibly true. Obama said he was against the Born Alive Infant Protection act because it "forces the mother to second-guess her decision."

If the baby is born alive and survives because of medical care, the mother has to decide whether to take the baby home and care for him, or make an adoption plan so somebody else can take the baby home. Obama apparently thinks it's better, all in all, if the baby's dead: no more decisions for mom.

Or what do you think he meant?

14 posted on 09/22/2008 7:39:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: ChurtleDawg
Vile?....good mercy.

You're either for killing babies, or against...and he's for

Which one are you?

19 posted on 09/22/2008 11:08:54 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: ChurtleDawg
I guess you haven't heard about all the bishops who came out against Pelosi and Biden. It also applies to Obama. It also applies to all of us! (Supposedly 55 bishops have spoken out against abortion; this list contains fewer than that, but has lots of links to actual words.

Updated: American Bishops who have spoken against Pelosi

Here is the complete list of American bishops who have responded to Nancy Pelosi's comments so far:
  1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver was the first American bishop to respond
  2. ... Bishop James Conley, his auxiliary, joined him
  3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington DC responded twice, first in a press release and second in a statement to The Hill. He has also appeared on Fox News, I am told.
  4. Cardinal Justin Regali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities, issued this statement through the USCCB website...
  5. ... Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine, joined him
  6. Cardinal Edward Egan of New York publised a strongly worded statement of his own
  7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo issued a letter correcting Pelosi's claims
  8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh and...
  9. ... Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs have chimed-in
  10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio, CNA reports has added his voice ...
  11. ... Bishop Oscar Cantu, his auxiliary bishop, has joined him
  12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville has published an extensive letter
  13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa has a detailed response
  14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas has joined the USCCB's efforts
  15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin is on-board
  16. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston mentions the USCCB on his blog
  17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando has written at length
  18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis challenges Pelosi's statement
  19. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, President of the US Bishops, has weighed-in
  20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker, OR publishes in the Catholic Sentinel
  21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse, WI responds in a word document
  22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland, OH will comment in his September 5th column (PDF)
  23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City, IA has one of the very best responses I've read
  24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco has invited Pelosi to a "conversation"
  25. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn: "Judging the Candidates"

{Last updated on September 10th.}

Notes:

  • Previous #23 has been removed. Bishop Joseph Gossman of Raleigh, NC is actually the bishop emeritus, and the new bishop, Michael Burbidge has not, to my knowledge, made a personal statement.
  • Previous #16 has also been removed, it was an erroneous duplication of current #13.
  • #26 was added September 10th, although he published his column September 6th

22 posted on 09/22/2008 3:14:40 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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